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Old 01-10-2013, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Am I also required to date Catholics, non-Christians and gays to validate my lack of prejudice?
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Old 01-10-2013, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Orlando
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Am I also required to date Catholics, non-Christians and gays to validate my lack of prejudice?

Maybe they can pass a list around of the types of people one must date before you are deemed non-racist.

Oh wait....does the clothing they wear matter? I really don't like guys that wear pink polka dot shirts.
Oh darn...now I'm a non fashion forward racist.

Doom dispair and agony on me!!!
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Old 01-10-2013, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Bayou City
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As has been said in the thread already, it's not racist to say you prefer the physical attributes of some races over others. It's racist when you say "I would never date a black chick". See the difference? One is stating a preference, and the other is setting a strict condition--a code, if you will. I don't care who you are, I'm sure I could find examples of non-white people you'd find attractive.

@OnlyCurious - I didn't notice MrSykes's post, but thanks for calling it out. I would say that sexual orientation is malleable to some extent. To anyone who disagrees, think about the types of women/men you were attracted to at 14, and compare that to now. When you were 14, you were attracted to other 14-year-olds, but as you aged you grew to like others in your age group. At least, for most people this tends to happen. You may have a strong programmed preference but your taste also ages like a fine wine, and there is enough plasticity--I think, for someone to do a 180 in their orientation over a very long period of time.

That said, for most people it seems to be something that doesn't change much, so I would lean towards saying it's caused by epigenetic factors initially, and as the brain develops it can move away from what it was initially wired to light up for.
What does that have to do with sexual orientation? The poster in question agreed with me that sexual orientation (sex-based attraction) and racial preferences were not comparable, but somehow disagreed with my point that sexual orientation is indeed more "static" than racial preferences. To date he hasn't offered any reasons for his position.
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Bayou City
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Nor did I say anything different to that. You are in danger or stating the obvious here. You can not draw the conclusion someone is racist or not racist from their decision to eat an apple for breakfast either.

The topic is a general thread on a general point however and as I said twice now there is no more reason to think a person racist for not dating other racists than there is to consider a person sexist for not dating a certain sex.
Unless I was mistaken, you argued more or less categorically that a stated lack of attraction for an entire racial class of people was not racist, as it was a reflection of the person making the statement and not the people in the class to which the statement refers. I simply countered that such a statement is not sufficiently indicative of an absence of racist intent, and could very well reflect negatively on the people it describes. And again, the racism/sexism analogy doesn't work as racial preference and sexual orientation are not exactly similar.
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:40 AM
 
Location: USA
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Yes.

Of course, people who refuse to date outside their race will usually hide behind the word "preference." As in, "I am not racist; I just have a preference for white women (or black men, or whatever)."

That's rubbish.

A preference is something minor and harmless, like preferring rice instead of potatoes. Automatically excluding droves of people from your dating pool is not a preference. It is a prejudice, pure and simple.
The word Preference fits to a tee. If it's only discriminatory with respect dating and no other area (Survival, Jobs, housing, friends, etc) then it really isn't what Americans consider Racism. You may not find certain features that are fairly common in a race attractive. My white (Actually Tanish) complexion may be unattractive to a woman who likes very dark or even very light skin. Is she discriminating against me because of my tone? Yes. Would I call her a racist because of it, No. Is she closed minded because of her preference? In my mind that's the definition of being close minded, but I still wouldn't hold it against her as that is her preference.

There are some people on this board (of all races) and in real life that say they have a preference, then follow it up with statements about Superiority- Smarter, Dumber, Stronger, Taller, with respect to race etc. That's the tipping in my mind where it's really not just a preference.
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:48 AM
 
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Am I also required to date Catholics, non-Christians and gays to validate my lack of prejudice?
I like this.

Similarly, am I required to date Mormons, Jews, non-Christians, and attempt to date lesbians to validate my lack of prejudice?
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:53 AM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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will you call them racist?
No.
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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That's their preference. Wouldn't call them anything unless they base their reasons off of which group is superior or inferior and looks at one group in disdain and stereotypes that group. But then who they date is STILL their prerogative.
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:58 AM
 
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That's their preference. Wouldn't call them anything unless they base their reasons off of which group is superior or inferior and looks at one group in disdain and stereotypes that group. But then who they date is STILL their prerogative.
That's true, like i just dont' find black women attractive, not even Beyonce, but I have loads of african american friends. Does that make me racist because i dont' find them attractive? you like who you like, you know?
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Surf city, NC
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White brunettes. That's fairly specific.

Sooo your racist against redheads & blondes? Shame on you!
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