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Dating cheap ass women who refuse to pay for a date isn't a gender role issue. It's a choice you make to date these types of users. Try being a little more discerning about the women you ask out.
I try not to put my hand washables or items that require dry cleaning in with the rest of the dirty laundry. Problem solved.
They weren't hand-washables or items that required dry cleaning so that doesn't really solve the problem of a red sock in light colored laundry. He doesn't get a free pass just because he plays dumb. If he wants to play games like that, I will too!
However, it wasn't really a problem. I just went online and clicked a few buttons and ordered 2 new dresses. He's more careful about doing the laundry now. He even cleans out pockets so we don't launder tissues, gum or crayons.
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Originally Posted by ellie
He should simply find a few women who feel as he does; not insist that everyone conform to his expectations.
I agree with you. OP, just make better choices. If you don't want to pay for all of the dates and that is her expectation, find someone different that aligns with your expectations.
I don't know if this advice was given to woman in a magazine but from experience when a woman is interested they treat on Date number 3
That's just a warmed-over version of the cliche "3-rd date rule". I can't believe you've never heard of that before. And btw, it's largely wishful thinking on the part of the guys. There are no rules. Women treat when they feel like it. Are you in Middle School?
Women only want to be equal to men to receive higher pay, the competitive jobs, and to receive the same respect they have from others. Some women still like chivalry or grow up with old school traditions but that is not the case with americans anymore since everything is dutch here. However, with women being equal to men and being treated as men american women are much more independent now in their relationships as well. This could be the major reason why the divorce rate in america is increasing.
So when looking at it from that perspective.. guys should still be chivalrous to women and give them the respect they deserve regardless of their sex or income level. If a woman asks you out here in america it's expected they pay but anywhere else a guy is always expected to pay. Maybe you're not dating american girls? lol
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Originally Posted by bob100
Now I make about 95,000 dollars a year. but yet the women I go out with make twice as much money sometimes. but then expect me to pay. if you want to be equal to men, everything must be equal. I think men need to stop paying for sex, which is contributing to most of the problem. we need to look at women like peers, and not sex objects. you get women who want to be equal to men, but yet won't pay for their own food. I have women who asked me out and won't pay. can someone please make me understand what the hell's going on?
and I have a feeling this is going to get worse when I move back to Chicago. I've been offered a better job and pay so its gonna get worse.
Its nice enough weather to do laundry so I just through mine in. Whites, colors, everything, one load. I'm pretty sure I overloaded the washer too. *neener neener*
I think it's unfair that a woman has the option of being a deadbeat while a man needs to have money to be seen as attractive. A common mentality in alot of women is that because they are female they believe it is the duty of a man to take care of them. OR the state. It's like an entitlement mentality that only women have. But ever since feminism started, women now have 2 options. They can be the deadbeat, or they can dispose of the man completely. Both are very damaging to our society and the family unit.
. But ever since feminism started, women now have 2 options. They can be the deadbeat, or they can dispose of the man completely. Both are very damaging to our society and the family unit.
Funny how you can only perceive negatives to this. Heaven forbid women should actually have options! What's the world coming to?
To the men who think that gender roles are completely stupid and we need to evolve away from them ASAP: do you like women to shave their legs? Do you wish women in general wore skirts and pretty shoes more often? When somebody complains that modern women are losing their femininity, do you agree or disagree?
If you value specific traits in the feminine gender, you are not against gender roles.
No women are not losing their femininity. Men have been attracted women before skirts, pretty shoes and leg shaving. All that stuff is social not innate and gender roles do evolve they are not static.
What defines gender roles is up to the person because no one really follows them to a T so gender roles are as about as relevant as a person wants them to be.
Funny how you can only perceive negatives to this. Heaven forbid women should actually have options! What's the world coming to?
Heaven forbid men have options! What's the world coming to?
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