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Old 03-13-2013, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Holiday, FL
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Despite being fictional, if he's really a seething ball of anger just under the surface and he struggles every day to contain it, then I'd have to say "no thanks." Don't need that kind of drama.
There's a world of difference between a seething ball of anger and capability that is kept under lock and key. He's simply aware of the damage that he could do, and is very careful not to allow himself to get angry over situations that arise every day.
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Old 03-13-2013, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Holiday, FL
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Alright, I'll run through the checklist of whether a man is "real" or not.

I will first recite the Three Laws of Robotics, and see if the individual can break any of those laws. If they are able to, they are real.

I will then administer the Voight-Kampff examination to see if they are a Replicant or a real human being.

I will then take the individual out for lunch, and see if they can properly eat and drink. If they cannot, than they are an artificial being.

Finally, I will ask a series of questions that are emotional-based. Think about Data from Star Trek, and his problems with emotions even with the modification chip installed in him.

I think that should more than determine of somebody is a "real" man or not.
I might add that his "Knutson valve" also is in good working condition....
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Old 03-13-2013, 01:09 PM
 
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Okay....

He's generally taken for mid 40ish, rather than the 60 something. He doesn't see himself as anything special, but women have stated that he's very good looking, possibly a Robert Redford, without the age wrinkles. But darker hair, and his beard is almost white. He's 6 feet tall and weighs in at 190, so he's not fat and has had no serious medical issues. He's a bit stiff on the dance floor because of an old hip injury and that also means walking and standing are not big with him. He's a bit careful about the smart come-backs since the beer bottle, but he can tell jokes and enjoys seeing people laugh.

The whole point was, since I saw things in other threads about "real men" and abuse, this is a man that is very capable of physical violence. Perhaps to an extreme, yet he chooses not to allow that to surface except in an extreme situation. The control he exercises over himself may even be an over-compensation. The real Jim has been in a couple of relationships where he was seriously taken advantage of. I've heard a few women state that they would love to get into a relationship with him, but that seems to be a very serious challenge for any woman, due to his past experiences. So, abuse, or control of anyone other than himself, is a non-issue. From all appearances, he's just a good guy (some say nice guy) with a contagious smile.

So, since posters on other threads seem to have a connotation between "real men" and some form of abuse, without getting into looks, Where would you put Jim on the scale of real men.

Those of you that might remember seeing Captain Kangaroo... No matter what you may have thought about him on TV, keep in mind that during WWII, he earned the Medal of Honor. To me, he ranks very high as a real man. He was obviously very capable, but had no need to demonstrate any of that capability. And, neither does Jim.
UNfortunately being very capable of violent behavior does not malke one any less of a man. In fact, aggressivness is one of very core masculine traits that women are extremely attracted to.
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Old 03-13-2013, 02:26 PM
 
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"Real men do this" and "real men do that" are very common manipulative tactics that women often use in order to get men do what they want them to do. They are simple yet very powerful and effective tactics that even men themselves have learned to accept and even use them to shame other men.
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Old 03-13-2013, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Gotham
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"Real men do this" and "real men do that" are very common manipulative tactics that women often use in order to get men do what they want them to do. They are simple yet very powerful and effective tactics that even men themselves have learned to accept and even use them to shame other men.
A real man wouldn't say that.
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Old 03-13-2013, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Holiday, FL
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UNfortunately being very capable of violent behavior does not malke one any less of a man. In fact, aggressivness is one of very core masculine traits that women are extremely attracted to.
So..... You're saying that women are their own worst enemies.

They complain about men being controlling and mentally abusive because they are aggressive and tend to take charge, but that's what they were looking for in the first place.

I'm not trying to say that being capable makes him less of a man. But not feeling the need to demonstrate it, the consideration for others, and the well being of others ranks him higher.
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Old 03-14-2013, 07:46 AM
 
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1. It is blindlying obvious you have NO concept of military training. Please stop advancing the false stigmas.
2. Capt Kangaroo DID NOT earn the CMH.
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Old 03-14-2013, 10:17 AM
 
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Just to humor you and because I find this peculiar,
You never really got into what he's like besides being damaged from war, so I can't tell you. And you never mentioned his physical appearance. Your "story" is missing way too much for me to even paint a picture of this hypothetical human being.
Please explain what physical appearance has to do with a person being a real man or real woman. Being "real" to me has everything to do with character, specifically honor, loyalty, trustworthiness, etc
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Old 03-14-2013, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Considering how many women have mentioned a "REAL MAN" as one of the things they're looking for. I read the posts (It took a while) and got curious. Exactly what is it about a man that makes him "REAL"?
Penis, testicles, XY chromosome.
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Old 03-14-2013, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Chicago IL
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Penis, testicles, XY chromosome.
Can't rep at this moment have to spread it around first.
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