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Old 03-22-2013, 09:07 AM
 
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Most judge a man by his ability to provide. American culture doesn't preach anything but getting ahead and ball.

Women aren't evil, they're judge trained to seek and marry success. I posted a article about low paying men equals lower marriage rates in the political section.
They just need to find A. A woman that doesn't need to be provided for or B. A women who has no concern for marriage.
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Chicago IL
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I think its a matter of culture, gender roles, prevailing stereotypes and peoples personal definition of what defines "ambition".

One persons ambition might be another laziness or lack of and vice versa. So at best most of what your going to get here is assumptions and opinions.
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Chicago IL
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I've heard men be called losers for almost everything

Not having a job
Not having a good enough job
Not having money
Not having enough money
Not getting girls
Not getting enough girls
Living at home with parents
Not being attractive enough

Etc
I've rarely if ever heard the term applied to women in any of these cases. It's a term almost universally attributed to males
That is why I jumped on the "I don't give a @#$%" train. Trying to worry about all these criteria for social acceptance is stupid and generally you find people who feel the way you do.

There is still some perverse over inflated criteria for men and women and society hopefully it gets better in the future.
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:27 AM
 
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Most judge a man by his ability to provide. American culture doesn't preach anything but getting ahead and ball.

Women aren't evil, they're judge trained to seek and marry success. I posted a article about low paying men equals lower marriage rates in the political section.
I saw what hardships my mother dealt with by marrying men that couldn't hold down jobs. I saw her emasculate them, because she was working and they couldn't. She would work two jobs from time to time, while they could barely work 2 days a week.

I wouldn't say I'm a gunner, but I am the guy who wants to maximize my income potential within reason. I have no desire to work 60-70 hour weeks; however, I don't mind working 45-50 hours a week. That's close to what I work now, because that's the amount of time it takes to get the job done.

I want to be able to contribute in a relationship, because I've seen what it can do to a relationship when the man can't contribute, or just doesn't want to contribute.

Likely, the two biggest reasons for divorce today is adultery and financial incompatibility. It's a goal of mine to keep my finances in order and have the ability to provide for a/my family in the future.
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:47 AM
 
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I think you are all over-rating ambition. As long as a family earns enough for a decent lifestyle, lives within their means, and is able to save for the future, I don't see any need for ambition or constant chasing after something better. I would rather have my man available to spend time with me after work hours than to spend all his spare time chasing a dream.
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Old 03-22-2013, 10:01 AM
 
Location: around racist white people
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I think its a matter of culture, gender roles, prevailing stereotypes and peoples personal definition of what defines "ambition".

One persons ambition might be another laziness or lack of and vice versa. So at best most of what your going to get here is assumptions and opinions.
Culture plays a big part of it I agree. Some women just accept a guy for what type of man he is like for example if he's the type to beat up a guy touching his woman arse she will keep him around but overall America is geared towards materialistic stuff and women with sense she what they're worth and want that.

I also feel women have less geared towards them which probably says a lot about the educational gap in some places.
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Old 03-22-2013, 10:12 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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Nope... a "tinbanger" is slang for HVAC technician.
Tinknocker is the term I heard.

It means guys who install sheetmetal and ductwork.

Never associated "tinknocker" or "tingbanger" as an HVAC tech.

I've been in the HVAC industry 23 yrs now.
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Old 03-22-2013, 03:27 PM
 
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I saw what hardships my mother dealt with by marrying men that couldn't hold down jobs. I saw her emasculate them, because she was working and they couldn't. She would work two jobs from time to time, while they could barely work 2 days a week.

I wouldn't say I'm a gunner, but I am the guy who wants to maximize my income potential within reason. I have no desire to work 60-70 hour weeks; however, I don't mind working 45-50 hours a week. That's close to what I work now, because that's the amount of time it takes to get the job done.

I want to be able to contribute in a relationship, because I've seen what it can do to a relationship when the man can't contribute, or just doesn't want to contribute.

Likely, the two biggest reasons for divorce today is adultery and financial incompatibility. It's a goal of mine to keep my finances in order and have the ability to provide for a/my family in the future.
i mean no disrespect to your mother, but you used the plural term "men" which means she was with more than 1 who could not hold down a job. but what does that say about her and why she was attracted to this type of man?
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Old 03-22-2013, 04:52 PM
 
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I saw what hardships my mother dealt with by marrying men that couldn't hold down jobs. I saw her emasculate them, because she was working and they couldn't. She would work two jobs from time to time, while they could barely work 2 days a week.

I wouldn't say I'm a gunner, but I am the guy who wants to maximize my income potential within reason. I have no desire to work 60-70 hour weeks; however, I don't mind working 45-50 hours a week. That's close to what I work now, because that's the amount of time it takes to get the job done.

I want to be able to contribute in a relationship, because I've seen what it can do to a relationship when the man can't contribute, or just doesn't want to contribute.

Likely, the two biggest reasons for divorce today is adultery and financial incompatibility. It's a goal of mine to keep my finances in order and have the ability to provide for a/my family in the future
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Very well said, this makes perfect sense.
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Old 03-22-2013, 05:09 PM
 
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Tinknocker is the term I heard.

It means guys who install sheetmetal and ductwork.

Never associated "tinknocker" or "tingbanger" as an HVAC tech.

I've been in the HVAC industry 23 yrs now.
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You're always pounding on something...bang-bang-bang.


How do you roll that Pittsburgh joint down?

How about drive cleates?

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