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Old 04-22-2013, 12:31 AM
 
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Originally Posted by TJenkins602 View Post
When it comes to getting your foot in the door, having at least one of those can help. After that, you'd better have some substance to you.

What if you have none of the above? Should you then give up and crawl under a rock? Should you pursue bottom fishing? I find both to be profound fails but too much of one can lead to attempting to escape through the other, plus the outcome of either is usually even worse.
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:37 AM
 
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IOW, a bitter post from a man who has none of these things and uses this as an excuse for his loneliness.

News for you: 99% of men don't have any "status." There aren't many Roger Federer's or Prince Williams in this world. 90% of men aren't rich either and not that many have great looks.

So that leaves at least 80% of men who have NONE of the supposed (and erroneous) atttributes you claim the entire female gender wants. Yet I see a helluva lot of average looking dudes with little money and zero status having a lot of success with hot women.

So much for your puerile "theory."

How many burger flippers and 'clerks' do you see having a lot of success with hot women?
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:43 AM
 
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Lol, 80% of men do NOT get with "hot" women, not even most. Yes any man can get "a women", but is it the women he really wants?

Ah, there's the rub. Or as I say, 'now you're getting picky'. I never get women I want and eventually end up with women I don't want, so I have two reasons to feel sorry for myself.
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:46 AM
 
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Congrats! You have got it all figured out. That would explain why all men that arent particuarlly attractive, do not have status or a lot of money are single virgins.
Now that you have spread the gospel Im sure men will work on their attractivness, status and bank accounts.

There's also a lot to be said for being in the right place at the right time.
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:50 AM
 
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While they may not be the be all end all of dating, I'd rather not get too post-modernist and say that they don't matter at all. I think it matters most with respect to the socio-economic strata you are trying to date. If you are a blue collar worker aiming for a white collar corporate or tecchie type, yeah, you may have issues. But here in the States at least, it's not as insurmountable an obstacle as it would be in Asia, for example, where said white collar worker's family would never let her date "down."

What if you are a college-educated burger flipper? I think it's practically hopeless for that demographic.
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:54 AM
 
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How many burger flippers and 'clerks' do you see having a lot of success with hot women?
Brahmabull, aka "still reigning", has said in the past that he has an unemployed friend who has a gf who looks like a porn star. There are hot women who work as clerks and secretaries, you know.

Whatever....

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Old 04-22-2013, 12:54 AM
 
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There are guys out there who are generally considered attractive, and make good money and have "status" (e.g. a high-ranking occupation or nice connections)...who DO NOT do well with women at all. And then there are guys who have little or none of that...and have never had difficulty dating women.

Nearly everything a man needs to attract a woman comes from within. Good looks, a nice job, etc certainly can improve his odds, but in the realm of attraction those things usually are little more than accessories. A rotten, bitter or incompetent person with a high-level job, an Armani suit and a broad-shouldered, well-toned build is still a rotten, bitter or incompetent person.

What reason does an older college-educated broke ass burger flipper have not to be bitter? Seriously, all over this forum I read about the importance of confidence - on what basis would said burger flipper have confidence that's genuine and not arrogance?
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:04 AM
 
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I don't mind a short guy either, just don't bulk up to compensate. That is a turn off to me personally. You'll be fine, it's all about confidence. Good luck

What does a poor man have to be confident about?
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:10 AM
 
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What does a poor man have to be confident about?
The implication of this question is that it requires money to be somebody or to be considered a worthwhile human being.
The other implication is that all it takes to be considered a worthwhile human being is some money.
Both implications are wrong.

I am more confident because of my knowledge, my abilities, and the fact that I actively constantly choose to do the right thing than anything else.

My wife said my confidence was the thing that attracted her the most...when we met in COLLEGE (zero cash).

Confidence should never stem from material goods...those are temporary and insubstantial.
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:16 AM
 
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It's like when they say that women aren't interested in them or don't approach them, they mean the hot model-type women that they want don't approach them.

Women generally don't approach most men. I've been approached but I attribute that to being in the right place at the right time - to luck - and not to any inherent or developed quality of mine.
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