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Old 04-30-2013, 04:28 PM
 
Location: The Valley of the Sun
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IMO, it is all one big scam.
Well yeah!!!! Obviously!! But it's like anything else, as long as there is a market for it, it will continue to exist. As long as there are slime attorneys and black hearted women out there willing to try and make a buck from it then it will continue to be a part of our legal system.

 
Old 04-30-2013, 04:30 PM
 
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So... the alimony is determined by the laws in the state in which the divorce was filed?
Does that mean that, for example, now that Massachusettes has an alimony reform law, all a woman would have to do to avoid it is file for divorce in another state?
 
Old 04-30-2013, 04:33 PM
 
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Well yeah!!!! Obviously!! But it's like anything else, as long as there is a market for it, it will continue to exist. As long as there are slime attorneys and black hearted women out there willing to try and make a buck from it then it will continue to be a part of our legal system.
Because it's so lucrative for them. vvvvv

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Aye. Not only that, but women tend to suffer more economically after a divorce. Studies indicate that household income drops more for divorced women than for divorced men. Women are more likely than men to lose their health insurance after a divorce. Divorced women are more likely to declare bankruptcy than divorced men. The whole notion that women somehow parade off into the sunset with all the money while the poor enfeebled men end up scraping and scrimping to pay alimony is nonsense.
 
Old 04-30-2013, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Columbia, California
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So... the alimony is determined by the laws in the state in which the divorce was filed?
Does that mean that, for example, now that Massachusettes has an alimony reform law, all a woman would have to do to avoid it is file for divorce in another state?
This has been a issue for decades. The woman can file in a different state but if the husband files first he can choose what state he files in.
I think it does not matter the timing of filing, but the date of serving the summons of the suit.
 
Old 04-30-2013, 04:39 PM
 
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That is correct because a woman should work just like a man has to.

It is currently known as 'gender equality'.

Or do you not believe in that concept?
No, I don't really believe men and women are equal but that is really beside the point. This isn't a "man vs. woman" issue in my opinion. If the man stayed home with the kids and she was the breadwinner SHE should pay him child support and alimony (if alimony is needed). When you share your life with someone and you make sacrifices for them you shouldn't be screwed because of it if the marriage disolves. I don't feel like people should be punished for decisions made that benefited the family/kids.

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According to other posters she is entitled to a 'fair lifestyle'.

However this has already been achieved due to her current and generous new BF.

So why should she now be entitled to a lifestyle that is more than fair?

Basically, the theft allegation remains, unless she is willing to give the money to someone with a greater need.
It's not theft because it's court ordered.

Because HE is not legally tied to HER. He can leave her tomorrow and not have any ties at all to her. YOU have been ordered to pay her alimony by the courts. Having a boyfriend doesn't change the fact that she was legally tied to YOU through your marriage. I'm not sure why you can't understand this concept. He has no financial responsibility to her whatsoever. They are not legally bound and never were. Do you really not see the logic here or is it just an act?

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The point is that a husband with a decent lawyer and a proactive interest in his case won't allow himself to be cleaned out. He isn't helpless. As Lilac pointed out above, if he doesn't advocate for himself, no one else is going to.
Yup, pretty much this.
 
Old 04-30-2013, 04:42 PM
 
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Because it's so lucrative for them. vvvvv
are you seriously saying this sarcastically?
Is she seriously saying this sarcastically?

YES. IT IS IN FACT VERY LUCRATIVE!

I mean damn, even when some guy started trying to pass marriage reform laws here in Jersey, the alimony lawyers immediately tried to get him kicked off the bar or whatever board he was on. I mean damn, that's LOW.
 
Old 04-30-2013, 04:42 PM
 
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OP - It doesn't matter whether the bf is financially supporting your ex or not, the law states she'd have to marry again for you to get off the hook on paying her anymore. Sorry but that's the setup in the law.

When men and women sign the marriage contract they should know of all consequence scenarios if the marriage "goes south". If one doesn't like it then don't get married! It is what it is and many disregard the potential consequences then cry when things don't go to their liking if it ends.
 
Old 04-30-2013, 04:44 PM
 
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It's not theft because it's court ordered.
Right, because the law defines moirality
 
Old 04-30-2013, 04:44 PM
 
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are you seriously saying this sarcastically?
Is she seriously saying this sarcastically?

YES. IT IS IN FACT VERY LUCRATIVE!

I mean damn, even when some guy started trying to pass marriage reform laws here in Jersey, the alimony lawyers immediately tried to get him kicked off the bar or whatever board he was on. I mean damn, that's LOW.
Because it be a blow to THE DIVORCE INDUSTRY!

It's all about money in that "industry".
 
Old 04-30-2013, 04:47 PM
 
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Because HE is not legally tied to HER. He can leave her tomorrow and not have any ties at all to her. YOU have been ordered to pay her alimony by the courts. Having a boyfriend doesn't change the fact that she was legally tied to YOU through your marriage. I'm not sure why you can't understand this concept. He has no financial responsibility to her whatsoever. They are not legally bound and never were. Do you really not see the logic here or is it just an act?
Yeah, but this whole alimony system then creates the incentive NOT to marry where people would otherwise marry. Do YOU really not understand that or are YOU just acting?

It wouldn't be hard for alimony laws to have co-habitation loophole or something like that, that while a person is being supported by another, the alimony can stop.
Or in general alimony laws can be reformed.

But just because that hasn't happened yet that doesn't mean that it isn't still unjust. Injustice is injustice, no matter the law.
This should be rudimentary.
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