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Old 06-25-2013, 04:23 PM
 
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I see it like this. Whoever initiates and pursues have more power and control, because they are confident enough to go for it and decide who they want. Being passive and letting people come to you doesn't put you in a lot of control, because the person you want just may never come forward even if they feel the same. I see nothing wrong with pursuing. Just don't get over excited and worked up about one guy. Put on your shades and play it cool.
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Thousands of years of social conditioning are hard to undo in just one half century.
True. It's just bizarre to me, though, because I don't encounter much of the old-fashioned gender roles in my social/dating circles. When I read this forum I feel like I entered a time machine sometimes. Many people here appear to live in a completely different dating world than I do. It's one I'm fascinated by, but am quite happy to not be a part of!
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Pa
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I'm a black sheep. Never followed the crowd.
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I'm a black sheep. Never followed the crowd.
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Old 06-26-2013, 09:06 AM
 
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I see it like this. #1. Whoever initiates and pursues have more power and control, because they are confident enough to go for it and decide who they want. #2. Being passive and letting people come to you doesn't put you in a lot of control, because the person you want just may never come forward even if they feel the same. I see nothing wrong with pursuing. Just don't get over excited and worked up about one guy. Put on your shades and play it cool.
#1. This part is completely wrong. Person who pursues has already made their pick until they officially become dating. Person that is approached is in huge advantage until they both make a decent investment to level it out. Person who pursues is thus often expected not only to make the first approach, but to invest most if not all into variety, thinking of new places, new mutual activities, you name it.

#2. This is the part that I agree for the most part, but it's generally the consequence of choice #1. This is why only people who can attract enough attention can play the "passive role" and be very successful. Passive role gives the upper hand and active role pits you with lots of awkwardness, troubles, requiring decent amount of insight, etc, this list is really long.
Part that you didn't notice is that playing a passive role also requires different skills that can basically make you initiate the contact without "making the first move".

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Old 06-26-2013, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit
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If you're doing it right, the woman will eventually be pursuing the man, even if he initiated.
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Old 06-26-2013, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Chicago IL
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True. It's just bizarre to me, though, because I don't encounter much of the old-fashioned gender roles in my social/dating circles. When I read this forum I feel like I entered a time machine sometimes. Many people here appear to live in a completely different dating world than I do. It's one I'm fascinated by, but am quite happy to not be a part of!
It is kind of an internet thing where I thought most people were pretty lax about it apparently some folks are very rigid about things.

Oh well the world keeps turning.
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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It is kind of an internet thing where I thought most people were pretty lax about it apparently some folks are very rigid about things.

Oh well the world keeps turning.
Yeah, but these internet people also exist in real life, right? Where are they that we're only running into them here?
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:48 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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I see it like this. Whoever initiates and pursues have more power and control, because they are confident enough to go for it and decide who they want. Being passive and letting people come to you doesn't put you in a lot of control, because the person you want just may never come forward even if they feel the same. I see nothing wrong with pursuing. Just don't get over excited and worked up about one guy. Put on your shades and play it cool.
One of the more sensible posts here.

Couldn't rep you.
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Old 06-27-2013, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Chicago IL
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Yeah, but these internet people also exist in real life, right? Where are they that we're only running into them here?
Yeah they exist in real life but I guess its a matter of time and place.

I mean these conversations don't come up a lot and most people hang out with people similar to themselves so never hearing a descenting opinions.

We all have views that we intentionally and unintentionally reinforce.

I would look up the definition of the False Consensus Effect I'm pretty sure it sums up the internet and life in general.

And the world keeps turning.
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