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Old 06-19-2013, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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"Game" is the general term for the social skills I am refering to. At no point am I praising or encouraging playing games.
Okay then, thanks for clarifying.

It was hard to get that from your first post.

 
Old 06-19-2013, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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I guess this just shows how much dating has changed. I don't remember anyone playing games 40 years ago. First you take a girl out on a date, if it goes good, you might call her in a few days or in a week and set up another date. Some days you might talk on the phone for a little while, but there wasn't constant communication, texting every day or something. Most men and women had other things going, work, school, sports, family stuff. Dating was just a part of life, it didn't take over your life. In some cases, if it was long distance for a phone call, letters had to do. Phone calls were way too expense to call every day or to talk for a long time.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 11:21 AM
 
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Both. I'm interested in why people so vehemently deny that "game" works, but when an attractive woman describes the last few men she'd been with, or her current boyfriend and how they started dating, the charactiritics and interaction she'll describe fall eerily in line with game.
Again, the problem likely lies in actually calling social skills (manners, etc) "game".

"Game" seems to imply the playing of one which has a negative connotation when associated with adult relationships.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Again, the problem likely lies in actually calling social skills (manners, etc) "game".

"Game" seems to imply the playing of one which has a negative connotation when associated with adult relationships.
Exactly. Normal social skills, charm and charisma are not some mystical concept called "game" that only a few guys on the internet know about.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit
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Again, the problem likely lies in actually calling social skills (manners, etc) "game".

"Game" seems to imply the playing of one which has a negative connotation when associated with adult relationships.
I think the negativity comes from the fact that it levels the playing field, well, as much as it can. Women have always had the advantage in the dating field, until they meet that one guy they can't figure out. He's confident, he's not clingy, she's always wondering what he's thinking. These guys were rare.

Most guys meet a hot chick and go on a date and they're sappy and in love. The girl knows she has him in the bag. Now with the relatively resent advent of game, MANY of the men out there act like that rare confident guy. I'd be upset too if my advantage was getting killed by the internet
 
Old 06-19-2013, 11:34 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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No, confidence, aloofness, charm, humor and not jumping when a hot woman says jump does the trick and this is what game teaches. I don't call it games, I call it self improvement.
Maybe this is many guys' problem? They only go for "hot" women? Why would you be interested in a woman who tells guys to jump and expects them to do it, anyway?

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Old 06-19-2013, 11:35 AM
 
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Game works. Projecting confidence, charm, and a sense of humor all while refusing to bend to a woman's will just because she is attractive creates attraction. This is simple human social interaction. All game teaches men who were previously socially awkward is how to develop and use these attractive social qualities. Men who internalize "game" that are already attractive or socially strong can really see the results of their interactions.

Yes there are underhanded parts of game that silly PUAs employ, such as subtly disapproving of a woman so she feels the need to qualify herself (negs), creating jealousy, etc, but these things tend to work as well. (Here comes the "ONLY ON INSECURE AND STUPID GIRLS, NOT WOMEN!" proclomations)

But here you will find the hoardes of game deniers, men and women alike. I find it comical. Yes, of course most feminist will vehemently deny that "game" works. Most women would. But think about the last few men you've been with. How did they act? Do you actually read up on "game," further than a top level glance at a "PUA" search on google?

The men that deny game sadden me. Oh, you didn't need game to land your wife? I wouldn't need game to marry a 6 level land beast either.

The point of discussion I'm tyring to make here, is outside of the silly notion of "PUA" that you have in your mind, is that "game" is actually portraying the most attractive qualities in men. Confidence, wit, charm, and a sense of humor. And it works.
Here's a million dollar question. What do I get with that "game"? Sex? Big deal. I have enough money for it and if that's what people want, they should stop being hypocrites and legalize prostitution already.
I don't think that my world revolves around someone's vagina and I don't even bother playing "games". Here's some useful advice - do something with your life, get a job, save the money, enjoy yourself, get a family on your own one day. You don't need "games", if you're old enough to consent to sex you should be old enough to play games.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit
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Maybe this is many guys' problem? They only go for "hot" women? Why would you be interested in a woman who tells guys to jump and expects them to do it, anyway?

See anything wrong with this picture?
Like it or not, most men want to be with very attractive women. Mod cut: Gender bashing.

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Old 06-19-2013, 11:38 AM
 
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I find it amusing people would have to change the way they would normally interact just to attract women.

I also find it sad that no girls are attracted to them how they are naturally, so they pretend to be someone they're not.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit
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Here's a million dollar question. What do I get with that "game"? Sex? Big deal. I have enough money for it and if that's what people want, they should stop being hypocrites and legalize prostitution already.
I don't think that my world revolves around someone's vagina and I don't even bother playing "games". Here's some useful advice - do something with your life, get a job, save the money, enjoy yourself, get a family on your own one day. You don't need "games", if you're old enough to consent to sex you should be old enough to play games.
I have a job, my own house, and a nice car. "game" is just part of my social interaction that accents my attractiveness to women. Like it or not, it works with finding a girlfriend, a wife, or a one night stand. All depends on how you use it and what your goal is
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