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Old 06-19-2013, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Canada
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None of this is game. It is being a douche. I don't use women and I'm over the one nighter. I just recently got out of a year and half relationship. No, I see game in a much different light than the posters here
Honestly, who really cares? Certainly not the millions of people who are in relationships that didn't involve game to get there.

 
Old 06-19-2013, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit
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Why did your relationship end?
She pressed for marriage and got ultra insecure and needy after I said I wasn't ready. A few months later we started talking again but it didn't work out.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Wrong. Learning which of your personality traits to project, learning better conversation skills, and knowing how to navigate female tests is not being someone you're not, it is improving your social interaction skills. There is a huge difference in being a fake douche and tweaking how you act in social settings.

No one gets mad at the guy who learns to control his temper and not be so argumentative, so why is the guy who learns not to jump when a woman says jump, or try so hard, shamed? It really is comical
Re: the bolded part, does that always happen with women you encounter?
 
Old 06-19-2013, 02:30 PM
 
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Like it or not, most men want to be with very attractive women. Orphaned.
Or at least someone they are attracted to.

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Old 06-19-2013, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit
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Re: the bolded part, does that always happen with women you encounter?
Women test men whether they are aware they're doing it or not.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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Women test men whether they are aware they're doing it or not.
No, they don't. Manipulative or needy women test men, women who are secure in themselves have no need to do that.

Unless you're talking about testing men to make sure they aren't PUA or trying to pull some manipulative BS on you just to sleep with you. Then yes, all women should test men to make sure they wont' be used.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 02:34 PM
 
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Wrong. Learning which of your personality traits to project, learning better conversation skills, and knowing how to navigate female tests is not being someone you're not, it is improving your social interaction skills. There is a huge difference in being a fake douche and tweaking how you act in social settings.

No one gets mad at the guy who learns to control his temper and not be so argumentative, so why is the guy who learns not to jump when a woman says jump, or try so hard, shamed? It really is comical
Likely said guy is shamed because of he thinks in terms of power/control thinking gals are trying to have some control by making him 'jump' as well as said guy use the phrase 'female tests' which generally tests to mean a gal not saying/thinking/feeling/doing as he wants.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 02:36 PM
 
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No, they don't. Manipulative or needy women test men, women who are secure in themselves have no need to do that.

Unless you're talking about testing men to make sure they aren't PUA or trying to pull some manipulative BS on you just to sleep with you. Then yes, all women should test men to make sure they wont' be used.
Yes they do according to PUAs and in my opinion these females tests are either her picking up on his tactic trying to call him on his bs or her not doing/saying/thinking/feeling as he wants. It's really amusing what these guys consider 'tests'.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 02:39 PM
 
Location: SF CA, USA
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That is usually described as charisma, charm or appeal. Someone who is like that just "is", it's not something he has to work at or game at being. It's part of who he is at his core, not a persona put on to manipulate women into getting what he wants.
Yes, and those men will never ever have to worry about what game is for the rest of their lives. It's completely off their radar and useless to them because they organically have it. What about guys who, for whatever reason, grew up not developing charisma or an interesting personality? Being himself would be the worst thing he can do. I know so many guys with great careers or good looks and have all the personality of a doorknob, and I'm pretty sure women don't like that. Game is just the concept of self-improvement in such a way as to attract others.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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My question is, why don't these guys focus on ACTUALLY improving their personalities all around instead of focusing their efforts on 'getting women'? Why don't they join groups like Toastmasters or learn to just be a decent person that interacts with others in social settings? The fact that it's focused on getting women is what makes me question it.
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