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Old 07-05-2013, 06:08 AM
 
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I've seen it quite a few times. People will say to unsuccessful men and women that the reason they're not successful is because of being a bad person but I've never seen that play out in real life. Some of the meanest and worst people I've known have bad great success attracting the opposite sex and some of nicest people I've known have no one(both men and women) I mean look at the criminals(who get so many letter in jail) and politicians who are all married and in happy relationships.

So why do people keep spreading this myth? How good or bad of a person you are has no bearing on the success you have in relationships.
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Old 07-05-2013, 06:09 AM
 
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Where do you see people spreading this myth? I rarely hear anyone trying to propagate such nonsense.
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Old 07-05-2013, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Des Moines IA
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I haven't heard this either, but honestly it could be just something people say because there always has to be a reason why someone is single, instead of well....that's just the way it is. Sometimes there really isn't a reason, just at this particular moment in your life you're single, that could change at any moment.
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Old 07-05-2013, 06:17 AM
 
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American society is rife with the belief that we make our own destiny, and further, that society is essentially just. The prevailing view is that young people who don't succeed financially or in their careers, owe their failure to laziness or poor judgment; that business owners who prosper, did so because of hard-work and well-honed sense. In the same context, people who can't secure a mate owe their failure to defects of character, whether it be abrasive personality or foolish criteria or just not making enough effort.

Other societies are more fatalistic, believing that luck (or if you prefer, fate) has stronger role in determining success or failure.
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Old 07-05-2013, 06:50 AM
 
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I read a book a while back called, "The Millionaire Mind," which was based on one of the largest studies of millionaires ever done.

One of the things you would constantly see and that they even listed as one of the top reasons they were successful had to do with "having integrity and being honest," or something along those lines.
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Old 07-05-2013, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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American society is rife with the belief that we make our own destiny, and further, that society is essentially just. The prevailing view is that young people who don't succeed financially or in their careers, owe their failure to laziness or poor judgment; that business owners who prosper, did so because of hard-work and well-honed sense. In the same context, people who can't secure a mate owe their failure to defects of character, whether it be abrasive personality or foolish criteria or just not making enough effort.

Other societies are more fatalistic, believing that luck (or if you prefer, fate) has stronger role in determining success or failure.
Powerful empires tend to view the world through that lens. Victorian Britain was very much the same. Poverty/loneliness is seen as a character fault in the most powerful nations.
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Old 07-05-2013, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Reno, NV
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Morality and integrity probably have little impact on short term dating success. Lack thereof may well impact long term relationship success - most people won't stay with a cheater or someone who is otherwise dishonest (unless, perhaps, it increases wealth, then all bets are off).
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Old 07-05-2013, 10:39 AM
 
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Well, I won't date someone unless they are extremely ethical and honest. I don't know if other people are the same way.

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politicians who are all married and in happy relationships.
What the heck? Talk about believing myths!
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Old 07-05-2013, 10:41 AM
 
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Neve heard that in fact it may be the exact opposite . Immoral people do really well in dating (and everything else) in my opinion
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Old 07-05-2013, 10:45 AM
 
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I've seen it quite a few times. People will say to unsuccessful men and women that the reason they're not successful is because of being a bad person but I've never seen that play out in real life. Some of the meanest and worst people I've known have bad great success attracting the opposite sex and some of nicest people I've known have no one(both men and women) I mean look at the criminals(who get so many letter in jail) and politicians who are all married and in happy relationships.

So why do people keep spreading this myth? How good or bad of a person you are has no bearing on the success you have in relationships.
I don't know where this mentality comes from either.

It's usually those who are most apathetic and careless who seem to hold the most power in relationships, but there are also relationships out there with two people who feel mutually the same whether or not they are moral or immoral both are equally very happy with each other.

I wish more people strive for that balanced happiness, but as humans, we all have issues. No one's perfect, and everybody's working at their own pace at their own time, on their own terms. So, just being a decent person doesn't equate to relationship success. And, being a despicable person doesn't guarantee personal happiness by being in a relationship. As nothing's what it always appears, surface level, people may seem happy but that level of content is questionable.
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