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Old 08-11-2013, 11:13 PM
 
Location: socal baby
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I don't know. My guess is they just think about the money and numb themselves to everything else (including the fact that it may not feel good). Others do it because their boyfriends/husbands ask to film them and they want to please their man.
idk, i think there is a little liberal living, adventuresome, exhibitionism, fame chasers and the like also going on.

google "meeting madison swan and mom". it's a porn site with a 2min clip of a cute 20yo blonde who asked her mom to take her to a modeling gig and mom walks into a situation where her daughter jumps into doing a porn scene, which was apparently daughter's undisclosed plan all along. mom's shock and consent is pretty much live on tape. craziness going on. clip is fairly clean as porn clips go.

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Old 08-12-2013, 01:18 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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I think it's a very complicated subject and probably not one that can be described or dissected through a few posts on a message board. To me, there's no way to stop objectification and everyone does it to a certain degree. The problem is when you take that objectification and treat others differently based on that. People do treat those they are attracted to physically much different than those they aren't attracted to and that can become a problem. If I go into a restaurant I expect a certain level of service, but if I'm completely ignored by my waiter because there are prettier girls 2 tables down I'm going to be irritated.

So, objectification is going to happen and there isn't much you can do about it...but I'd prefer people treat others decently regardless of how physically attractive they are. I also know that this is a pipe dream.
Good point. I think we're all objectified to a certain degree, and sometimes we even like it, but what we don't like is to be seen ONLY as an object and not a person with feelings, thoughts, opinions etc inside.
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Old 08-12-2013, 02:37 AM
 
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idk, i think there is a little liberal living, adventuresome, exhibitionism, fame chasers and the like also going on.

google "meeting madison swan and mom". it's a porn site with a 2min clip of a cute 20yo blonde who asked her mom to take her to a modeling gig and mom walks into a situation where her daughter jumps into doing a porn scene, which was apparently daughter's undisclosed plan all along. mom's shock and consent is pretty much live on tape. craziness going on. clip is fairly clean as porn clips go.
She got paid for that. Duh.
(and it was disgusting. Her mom is retarded, I would have yanked her out of there if I was her.)
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Old 08-12-2013, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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The term "Objectification" as applied to women was only created when women started to object vocally to being treated as sex objects by men. 50's gals only whispered their complaints to their closest female friends in those days. Parenthetically, males were also more vocal in doing so amongst their male "peers".

What has changed? Women are more vocal; men are less vocal. But I doubt anyone's minds have been changed. Just their voices. I don't think the general level of background noise - like cat whistles - has changed that much, either.
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Old 08-12-2013, 08:39 AM
 
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The term "Objectification" as applied to women was only created when women started to object vocally to being treated as sex objects by men. 50's gals only whispered their complaints to their closest female friends in those days. Parenthetically, males were also more vocal in doing so amongst their male "peers".

What has changed? Women are more vocal; men are less vocal. But I doubt anyone's minds have been changed. Just their voices. I don't think the general level of background noise - like cat whistles - has changed that much, either.
Agreed.
The sex drive is an instinct.
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Old 08-12-2013, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Reno, NV
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Agreed.
The sex drive is an instinct.
Yes. And culture dictates how that's expressed, and what's acceptable or tolerated.
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Old 08-12-2013, 09:02 AM
 
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i've noticed that alot of woman around town are wearing dresses again. i guess it's back in style to wear a dress.
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Old 08-12-2013, 09:06 AM
 
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Yes. And culture dictates how that's expressed, and what's acceptable or tolerated.
Yes but the instinct doesn't ever change.
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Old 08-12-2013, 10:01 AM
 
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I think what we have here are 2 different topics. When it comes to objectifying women, I don't think it has "improved" much since the 1950's. I'd make an argument its gotten worse because women are alot more comfortable displaying their bodies. I don't think us men are ever going to stop looking at a women and asking ourselves "do you think she is a 7 or 8. This is different than treating women as a sex object. I believe its gotten better, but no where it needs to be. I've worked with a number of attractive women whom I have respect for, and believe are capable of doing great things in the field I work in, but I like I said before, as much as I respect their intelligence, that won't stop me from asking other guys, where would you rank her on a scale of 1-10.
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Old 08-12-2013, 10:06 AM
 
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Since the 1950s, how much progress have we made in the objectification of women issue?
not much! women objectify one another more than ever.
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