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Old 11-16-2007, 09:06 PM
 
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The only thing he will change is his underwear. You will soon find yourself constantly throwing his underwear in the hamper day after day. Because that's the only thing he's ever going to change. And if that's the life for you, well I guess whatever makes you happy. It's not just a guy thing, ladies. Women don't really ever change either. Expecting anyone to change is foolish.
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Old 11-16-2007, 11:50 PM
 
Location: Naptowne, Alaska
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You women have no faith in the male gender of our species! Of course he'll change. He will even change the babies diapers. You watch. He will turn out to be a great father and husband. She on the other hand will turn for the worse. You watch.
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Old 11-17-2007, 01:23 AM
 
Location: CA
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I work with a young woman who's getting married shortly. To make a very long story short, she's now pregnant and thinks her fiance will change for the better after they get married. Actually she thinks SHE can change him. I wouldn't exactly call the guy a dirt bag, but let's just say if my sister was going to marry this guy I'd be very, very concerned. I tried to explain to her that guys are usually on their best behavior before they get married. And of course they will change after they are married, BUT NOT FOR THE BETTER.

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What a sad story. It's disturbing anytime I hear of a woman (or a man) marrying for the wrong reasons and having children with people who have no business reproducing. It's the kids in these dysfunctional relationships who suffer the most. Although this naive girl can divorce this man... that child will always have this man as a father... Hope he's not as bad as he sounds...
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Old 11-17-2007, 01:26 AM
 
Location: Fairbanks Alaska
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The hardest job in the wold must be the Single Mother.
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Old 01-19-2009, 12:06 AM
 
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Oh my goodness I just love this topic. Why do so many women ask if a man will change during a relationship when so few women are willing to change themselves?
Certainly a valid point. However, many men don't want the woman to change. This is the old cliche but when you have a young woman, reasonably good looking and providing frequent sex plus she is also on her best behavior, what guy wants change. Its when they aren't getting all this that they want change and most men will just find someone else, if they can. Women don't crave, and often barely tolerate the ones who cannot leave easily.
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Old 01-19-2009, 12:08 AM
 
Location: southern california
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snagging a bad boy and taming him is a sexy fantasy for many a girl. its like having brad pitt loading the dishwasher. it gets scary when she is recently divorced fat 50 and having the same fantasies.
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Old 01-19-2009, 12:12 AM
 
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What I don't understand is how a woman is attracted or in love with a man who supposedly needs so much changing. Are they in love with the man or are they in love with what they think he could be?
Its always a guy who is superficially attractive that they want to change. Women KNOW that these superficial attributes are things that cannot be changed so they dream of changing those things that might be different with a better upbringing. Unfortunately, such men are the least likely to be influenced to change. Since all women initially think they are a prime specimen, they believe this too and really have no need to change to find a new partner. "Take it or I'll leave" is their motto.
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Old 01-19-2009, 12:14 AM
 
Location: Coachella Valley, California
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I work with a young woman who's getting married shortly. To make a very long story short, she's now pregnant and thinks her fiance will change for the better after they get married. Actually she thinks SHE can change him. I wouldn't exactly call the guy a dirt bag, but let's just say if my sister was going to marry this guy I'd be very, very concerned. I tried to explain to her that guys are usually on their best behavior before they get married. And of course they will change after they are married, BUT NOT FOR THE BETTER.

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Yes - my thoughts are that you answered your own question in the first sentence. She's YOUNG - that's why she thinks she can change him.
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Old 01-19-2009, 04:41 AM
 
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Everybody changes regardless. It is written: "Things change".
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Old 01-19-2009, 05:55 AM
 
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Hmm, I think whether someone can change or not depends on their initial character in the first place. So if the guy/girl has bad character in the first place, then probably there will be no change for the better.

When I met my guy, he was still immature and not really doing anything with his life.... but today, he is studying hard to get his degree in order to secure a better future for us...
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