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Old 09-02-2013, 01:48 PM
 
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Okay, it's Norway, and it doesn't say if neurotic men also are increasingly being shut out of relationships, but I'll guess that is happening throughout first-world countries.
How personality affects fertility
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Old 09-02-2013, 03:03 PM
 
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Sounds like one more group of men who are sidelined.
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Old 09-02-2013, 03:08 PM
 
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I wonder how tall they are?
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Old 09-02-2013, 03:25 PM
 
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Well that's a relief. I do worry about the danger to the gene pool if some of these "struggling guy" posters actually got lucky with a "cold approach" and fell groin-first into a fertile woman by accident.
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Old 09-02-2013, 03:55 PM
 
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I doubt there's a significant connection to height. But male neuroticism seems linked to body type, with the naturally slim males tending toward anxiety. In that sense, the research might be saying in part that women are becoming more superficial (preferring moderate muscularity on average).

Edit: this is not good for society and probably not good for the gene pool. Neurotic men can be too much like [insert name of some annoying C-D member], but I think neuroticism often comes with the potential for tending well to others' feelings.

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Old 09-02-2013, 03:57 PM
 
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freemkt i know what you are saying. pretty soon it will be "study finds that men who are decent have more difficulty satisfying their mates"--but im sure we've already treaded over that here on the boards already!!!
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Old 09-03-2013, 03:26 PM
 
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I doubt there's a significant connection to height. But male neuroticism seems linked to body type, with the naturally slim males tending toward anxiety. In that sense, the research might be saying in part that women are becoming more superficial (preferring moderate muscularity on average).

Edit: this is not good for society and probably not good for the gene pool. Neurotic men can be too much like [insert name of some annoying C-D member], but I think neuroticism often comes with the potential for tending well to others' feelings.
Not to mention that there are far worse men in the world procreating.
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Old 09-03-2013, 03:30 PM
 
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Not to mention that there are far worse men in the world procreating.
Yes, like the violent psychopaths you will find in any prison
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Old 09-03-2013, 03:40 PM
 
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I wonder how tall they are?

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I doubt there's a significant connection to height. But male neuroticism seems linked to body type, with the naturally slim males tending toward anxiety. In that sense, the research might be saying in part that women are becoming more superficial (preferring moderate muscularity on average).

Edit: this is not good for society and probably not good for the gene pool. Neurotic men can be too much like [insert name of some annoying C-D member], but I think neuroticism often comes with the potential for tending well to others' feelings.
Where does the study say naturally thin men tend to have anxiety? I don't know why you would assume neurotic men would be more sensitive to others. You would think they would be self-involved with their issues. According to the study women are screening them out after spending time with them. There must be reason for that.
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Old 09-03-2013, 08:08 PM
 
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Maybe "tend" is too strong. But if you look up somatotypes, you'll find the typical thin male (ectomorph) is more anxious than other types.

The study only speculates about women rejecting those men (versus, for example, those men being less interested in having kids). It might be mostly rationalization, the "failo effect." Someone doesn't look great, his personality is scrutinized harder or personality traits are filtered through a negative lens (confident vs. stubborn, for example). Also, neurotic men might earn less on average than other men and probably are less likely to approach women (earnings disparities and cold approaches have increased over the decades). I believe male neuroticism often means self-absorption - when young. By age 30 or so, if there's an underlying sensitivity, it sometimes is channeled into good things (like the painfully shy kid who becomes a counselor). I base that observation on myself and many men I've come across. And I think anxiety tends to decrease around that age. Here, some research evidence of anxiety and sensitivity - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22120444
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