Is there really such a thing as "ex gay?"

[okie1962]

Have you ever noticed it seems like every time one of these big TV evangelist or politician gets caught in a gay scandal their wives always stand by them? They always say it was a moment of weakness, they were drunk or high on drugs or they have a wide stance... and the swear it was a one time thing and they will never do it again.

Do you really think anyone believes it was a "one time thing" and they will never do it again?

[Chowhound]

Originally Posted by okie1962

Have you ever noticed it seems like every time one of these big TV evangelist or politician gets caught in a gay scandal their wives always stand by them? They always say it was a moment of weakness, they were drunk or high on drugs or they have a wide stance... and the swear it was a one time thing and they will never do it again.

Do you really think anyone believes it was a "one time thing" and they will never do it again?

I agree.....

I have moments of weakness too.......... they just don't involve gay stuff... you don't switch your feelings on a dime...

Straight guy just doesn't wake up one day with a hankering to perform oral on another man......

You know what I mean? It's not a menu item that you select for that evening........yeah, I'll have the roast beef with a side of D.............

[Inebriated Duck]

Originally Posted by okie1962

Have you ever noticed it seems like every time one of these big TV evangelist or politician gets caught in a gay scandal their wives always stand by them? They always say it was a moment of weakness, they were drunk or high on drugs or they have a wide stance... and the swear it was a one time thing and they will never do it again.

Do you really think anyone believes it was a "one time thing" and they will never do it again?

Repression is a powerful thing.

[kat949]

Originally Posted by lilyflower3191981

According to this article,

"while the movement promises "change" and "healing" on the surface, its leaders
readily admit that these changes are external and behavioral only."

"From the footnote: [According to ex-gay leader Bob Davies] Ex-gay men may find that
this common pattern [that men are sexually stimulated by what they see] is untrue for
their marital relationship. Even if the ex-gay man continues to be vulnerable to
sexual stimulation toward other men through sight, he may find that the
principle turn-on in marriage is touch. . . . He may never have the same level
of raw sensuality in looking at his fiancée/wife that he had with stimulation
toward other men . . ."

http://www.othersheepexecsite.com/Ex...d_A_Paper.html

well, although generalization sometimes can be bad, I think it is pretty safe to assume that "there is no such a thing as ex gay."

What do you think?

For some, sexuality is fluid. But, sexuality doesn't define sex or gender.

Sex is between the legs. Gender is how a person views him/herself.

To say one can cure being gay is as dumb and trivial as saying one can cure oneself from being hetero.

Gayness vs. straightness is pre-determined in the mother's womb. Hormones play a large role, genetics, all sorts of reasons.

In fact, in Dagara culture, people embrace Gay people and treat them as sacred individuals. How's that for modern society?

[LS Jaun]

Originally Posted by kat949

For some, sexuality is fluid. But, sexuality doesn't define sex or gender.

Sex is between the legs. Gender is how a person views him/herself.

To say one can cure being gay is as dumb and trivial as saying one can cure oneself from being hetero.

Gayness vs. straightness is pre-determined in the mother's womb. Hormones play a large role, genetics, all sorts of reasons.

In fact, in Dagara culture, people embrace Gay people and treat them as sacred individuals. How's that for modern society?

Good points. By that a person could consider themself a man in a womans body and still have sex with men and women. Then there are the stars that have come out and call themselves lesbian or straight depending on who they were in a relationship with at the time.