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Old 10-25-2013, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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^^^^^^ That was awesome. I couldn't agree more.
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Old 10-25-2013, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit
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I have seen a trend. Young women like the really confident, cool, sauve etc, types that seem to do well with a lot of women.

As they age, their preference starts to lean towards the type that is more providerish, more likely to stick around for the long haul.
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Old 10-25-2013, 11:30 AM
 
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I have seen a trend. Young women like the really confident, cool, sauve etc, types that seem to do well with a lot of women.

As they age, their preference starts to lean towards the type that is more providerish, more likely to stick around for the long haul.
Yep. With age comes wisdom...finally figuring out what's really important and what lasts. And this is very important: Just because a guy is provider-ish (like that ) that doesn't mean he can't be exciting, sexy, passionate or fascinating/interesting. He can be all these things and be moral, mature, responsible, loving and caring with a good head on his shoulders. Really. His maturity will allow him to be all these things.
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Old 10-25-2013, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit
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Yep. With age comes wisdom...finally figuring out what's really important and what lasts. And this is very important: Just because a guy is provider-ish (like that ) that doesn't mean he can't be exciting, sexy, passionate or fascinating/interesting. He can be all these things and be moral, mature, responsible, loving and caring with a good head on his shoulders. Really. His maturity will allow him to be all these things.
Eh, the first example can be all of that, they are just harder to tie down because they have so many options. The latter tends to be less of the sexy and interesting which makes them more likely to be in that provider role right out the gate without much wrangling from the woman. With age comes less of the ability to do said wrangling with the ultra attractive male.
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Old 10-25-2013, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Europe
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Manly man is a great and understanding father, husband, friend and a son with wisdom and all normal human traits in controll.

Manly man cries when sad, laughs when glad and gives buttocks of how world tries to set men just in one way to be a "manly man"... Kingrilla-type of men are not menly on my books, they are huligans...

Man - confident and wise adult
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:10 PM
 
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Eh, the first example can be all of that, they are just harder to tie down because they have so many options. The latter tends to be less of the sexy and interesting which makes them more likely to be in that provider role right out the gate without much wrangling from the woman. With age comes less of the ability to do said wrangling with the ultra attractive male.
I don't necessarily agree with your assessment of the former. Those gorgeous Adonis-like features and other-worldly build seem to convince their owners that they don't need humility, empathy or humanity. This can produce a COLD man. Would a smart woman want to "tie down" a cold man, even if she could? I don't think so. Sometimes men that gorgeous decide they're going to take the path of women throughout the centuries and make it through life on their looks. This would hardly work to place them in a provider role. It seems to me a man like this would be looking for someone to care for him financially, using his ultra-attractiveness as the sexual currency to achieve his objective.

With age comes less of the ability to do said wrangling with the ultra attractive male.

This is not only true for women; this is true for the male too as age closes in, even in the face of those well-worn trump cards often played by men: "game" and money. It's hard to use these as trump cards because many women have their own, in both of these. So as trump cards go, they are worth less now than they used to be.
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit
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I don't necessarily agree with your assessment of the former. Those gorgeous Adonis-like features and other-worldly build seem to convince their owners that they don't need humility, empathy or humanity. This can produce a COLD man. Would a smart woman want to "tie down" a cold man, even if she could? I don't think so. Sometimes men that gorgeous decide they're going to take the path of women throughout the centuries and make it through life on their looks. This would hardly work to place them in a provider role. It seems to me a man like this would be looking for someone to care for him financially, using his ultra-attractiveness as the sexual currency to achieve his objective.

With age comes less of the ability to do said wrangling with the ultra attractive male.

This is not only true for women; this is true for the male too as age closes in, even in the face of those well-worn trump cards often played by men: "game" and money. It's hard to use these as trump cards because many women have their own, in both of these. So as trump cards go, they are worth less now than they used to be.
I agree with the majority of this. Some attactive men do get into relationships and do not become "cold" though. It's just harder for that man to stay interested or tamed because he has so many options that most men don't. A lot of men (and women) don't understand this because it's not a tempation they deal with, nor do they understand the biological urges of men.

Yes, it is true for both sexes, there is an attractiveness wall. But let's be honest. The male attractiveness peak, both physically and mentally, is probably around 35, whereas a woman's is likely mid to late twenties and the downhill slope is much steeper for women. Also to that point, men aren't trying to tie women down, it is usually the other way around and to tie down a very attractive man will be very difficult as your looks decline.
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Old 10-25-2013, 02:37 PM
 
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I agree with the majority of this. Some attactive men do get into relationships and do not become "cold" though. It's just harder for that man to stay interested or tamed because he has so many options that most men don't. A lot of men (and women) don't understand this because it's not a tempation they deal with, nor do they understand the biological urges of men.

Yes, it is true for both sexes, there is an attractiveness wall. But let's be honest. The male attractiveness peak, both physically and mentally, is probably around 35, whereas a woman's is likely mid to late twenties and the downhill slope is much steeper for women. Also to that point, men aren't trying to tie women down, it is usually the other way around and to tie down a very attractive man will be very difficult as your looks decline.
If looks a woman's looks are all he cares about I tend to agree with the last statement of your post. However, women are not as interested in tying men down as they used to be. So this boils ultra-man's options down to women's younger sisters who have yet to learn the lessons the older sisters have learned.. This could also be due to the myriad of disappointments and indignities they may have suffered at the hands of men as they traversed their youth. This could tend to make a highly desirable woman somewhat wary and ambivalent about the attentions of men in general unless a specific ONE catches their discerning eye.

I suppose what I am trying to say here, is that a beautiful man who believes simply lying around being beautiful will be enough to sustain a viable relationship with a woman is certainly not the prize he believes himself to be.
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Old 10-25-2013, 03:23 PM
 
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So a man showing any emotion to you is weakness and unattractive? i think some women confuse manliness with being an unemotional robot
Where on earth did I say that?

I said "stable emotions" not "zero emotions".

Some men will always pick on something you didn't say, rather than go to the trouble of trying to comprehend what you did say.
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Old 10-25-2013, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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I have generally gone for men who some would consider "softer" - artists, musicians, writers, nerds, reading fanatics, etc. I like to have something to talk about with the guys I date.

But I'll tell you what, I have been watching "Parks and Recreation" and Ron Swanson just DOES it for me. I can't explain it, but I have got to get me some of that!

Anyone know where I can find one of those?
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