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Old 11-13-2013, 08:28 PM
 
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What is up with all this stupid threads? What is the point? All this does is give an outlet for bitter guys to come on here and bash women."YES! THAT'S TRUE! WOMEN ARE SHALLOWER THAN MEN! ALL WOMEN CARE IS LOOKS! IT ISN'T MY FAULT THAT WOMEN DON'T LIKE ME - I'M NOT TALL ENOUGH/MUSCULAR ENOUGH/HOT ENOUGH/ETC.!!!"

There is no point. Because here's the thing - every PERSON is different. For instance, I don't have a physical type. I never had preferences OR requirements for physical looks. Do I represent all women? No. NOBODY DOES!

Get over it.
Come on now Dew, don't be mean.

This topic came up for discussion in with a few ladies invited to the watering hole. It did get intense but not too serious.

If there is one thing about the word "requirement" that does make more sense to me with age and experience is that a woman's list of requirements is not always centered on a mans looks.

I understand and respect the significance of a man having a foundation under his head, a steady job, at least one pair of decent dress shoes(two is better), good hygene and grooming skills and perhaps a clean car that goes from A-B-C and back. These are realistic requirements that should be accessible for most men in order to get a date and make progress with a good woman. Nothing wrong with that.

I still believe women hold more physical requirements than men do. Ladies do the majority of the choosing in relationships and sex. You control the acceptance and rejection. Men just do the asking. A whole lot less of us do the refusing lol.
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Old 11-13-2013, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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That's due to ubiquity of monogamy in our cultures (and most cultures around the world), which is completely unnatural and a purely man-made construct. Humans, like all species, are polygamous by nature. Most women, as I showed conclusively in another thread, are simply not designed biologically to find most men attractive. Hence, most are actually settling and have deluded themselves into thinking they are content marrying and "loving" a genetically undesirable male. This is why the divorce rate is so high. However, with increasing feminism and an increasingly liberal attitude to sex with each generation, it's only a matter of time before monogamy completely breaks down. Marriage is truly on its way out to the dustbin of history, and we may perhaps late in our lifetimes see the rise of harems, not too dissimilar from the ones that existed in our ancient past long before the rise of civilization. Let's hope by then they'll have invented a pill that can kill the sexual urges of the undesirable, lonely males so they can at least still be happy and content as they will likely be the majority if it actually plays out like this.
cheerful fella, aren't cha?
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Old 11-13-2013, 08:40 PM
 
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that's just about how i feel regarding this thread
Yeah he's a manlet
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Old 11-13-2013, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Atlantis
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It is not a male or female issue:

It is psychological.

A narcissist will tend to date outside of their physical preference since their physical preference is pushed away in their endless search for the attention that they desire (emotional, sexual, etc) and they compromise what their subjective physical preference is or would be and secure a partner or partners that meet the criteria that as narcissists they require: admiration and attention.

A co-dependent person almost always sacrifices what their physical preference would be and simply clings to anyone that they think might love them back and anyone that they think (delusional-thinking) will love them back unconditionally.

A person suffering from histrionic personality disorder always makes physical preference a secondary issue and seeks out someone that mirrors back to them - an idealized view or version of what they want to be while co-conspiring to be 'in love' and will settle for someone that does not meet the standards for physical preference in an attempt to find a partner that will love them the way they want and need to be loved in order to feel whole.

And it goes on and on depending on the type of psychological condition the person (male or female) is in.

An emotionally and psychologically healthy person has physical standards and preferences that he or she does not compromise on and has the maturity and self-discipline to wait for the right person to come into their life that meets those physical preferences.
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Old 11-13-2013, 09:03 PM
 
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Guys who insist they can't get a woman because of their looks are trying to convince themselves that it can't be their personality, intelligence or the fact that they're afraid to leave momma's basement.

I'm not rich nor handsome. I'm overweight, have a pink shiny head that reaches 5'9" if I'm wearing shoes, and I've never had any trouble at all in getting dates, girlfriends nor wives. I do have a hearty laugh, ears that listen, a mind to comprehend, a wry sense of humor, a generous soul, a soft touch and a big
toothy smile. (See?)

Even if it was true (it's not), how many women do you need in your life? For me, more than one at a time has never been a good idea (looking back). So if only 10% would be interested in you, that still leaves a few million to choose from. If that's not enough, it's YOU that's too damned picky!
If 10% of women in my appropriate age group were as interested in getting to know me as I was in getting to know 75-80% of women in that group, I'd be doing backflips like that battery powered toy dog.

I think if I'm lucky 1 out of 300 women maybe wants to get to know me as well as I want to get to know her and 1 out of 100 might respond favorably if I'm aggressive, play my cards right and have a bit of luck.
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Old 11-13-2013, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Davenport, Iowa
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If 10% of women in my appropriate age group were as interested in getting to know me as I was in getting to know 75-80% of women in that group, I'd be doing backflips like that battery powered toy dog.

I think if I'm lucky 1 out of 300 women maybe wants to get to know me as well as I want to get to know her and 1 out of 100 might respond favorably if I'm aggressive, play my cards right and have a bit of luck.
It only takes one, so you might as well try.
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Old 11-13-2013, 09:23 PM
 
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It only takes one, so you might as well try.
I do try.

That's the thing. Life's not just about the destination. It's about the journey. Other people have spent their teens, 20s and 30s dating people they are attracted to and who are attracted to them. If you've had it a little too rough, it could mess you up some.

I think if you get rejected by enough women that you genuinely like, it'll f@ck you up bad. That's why I say it's about approach.

In a strange way, it's actually kind of good that there's bitter, jaded guys here who are so young. They're learning things that I didn't learn until MANY years later. It will help them refine their approach to be more effective. Not in terms of getting women, but in terms of investment.
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Old 11-13-2013, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Davenport, Iowa
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In a strange way, it's actually kind of good that there's bitter, jaded guys here who are so young.
No, it's not. It's not a healthy attitude in the least.
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Old 11-13-2013, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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False. Both genders have requirements and preferences. And guess what? They actually vary by individual.

Even weirder? Almost everything varies by individual. It's not like having either estrogen or testosterone turns you in to some stepford style like minded individual.


Common sense lesson 101 over.
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Old 11-13-2013, 09:49 PM
 
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No, it's not. It's not a healthy attitude in the least.
In a roundabout way it is. If you think women just care about looks, then you're not going to invest a lot of yourself trying to get your answer. And ultimately, who cares about getting rejected by someone you don't know?

It's a progression. A stage if you will. The irony of it is I think most bitter guys start out way too idealistic about women. Thinking that women don't care about looks AT ALL. Then after, showing their best to some girls they really liked and getting rejected, it's all shattered.

If the progression starts early enough, they can right the ship if too much damage hasn't been done.
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