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Old 11-27-2013, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I know several my age (30s).
And many women who want to be.
And I know 2 SAHDs.

And everyone has a bachelor's degree if not more (my wife has an MBA).

 
Old 11-27-2013, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Sacramento, Ca.
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Well, I can't say I disagree with the article. It basically says if a woman wants to raise a family, she needs the father to help. Same as if a father wants to raise a family, he needs the mother to help. Pretty much the family dynamic for humans for quite a long time. Usually the father and mother are in love and are in on the whole family thing together--as in they decide to have a family together and help each other out. Maybe you can get by without one or the other... people do. Some people mess up and are single parents. And sometimes if you have an abusive, dead-weight, or otherwise "bad" parent maybe it's ideal to have just one. But for the most part, it's not ideal.

I am not really sure what the point is of the article since most people pretty much agree that to have a family, two parents are ideal. It's not really breaking news except in dysfunctional relationships or people who can't fathom a good family dynamic.
I also agree with the article and with you. Maybe there are some uber-independent women out there who feel insulted by the implication that they would need a man to feel complete. But in a family scenario it is the family unit itself that the presence of a man completes, rather than the woman or wife as a person, particularly.
 
Old 11-27-2013, 12:02 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Over the past several decades, America has witnessed a profound change in the way women view men and marriage. It began with the baby boomer adage “never depend on a man.”

This message resulted in a generation of women who turned their attention away from the home and onto the workforce. They did what their mothers told them to do: they became financially independent so they’d never have to rely on a husband.

Why women still need husbands | Fox News
The article is basically correct.

It agrees with what I've generally observed about how families function. (I did say generally - as in the majority of cases. Not in all cases.)
 
Old 11-27-2013, 12:12 PM
 
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i agree with her. my generation has gotten a lot of mixed messages in this area. on the one hand i'm pushed to go to college, get a good job, and advance in my career path. on the other hand my parents and grandparents are pressuring me to have a family and i do want that, too. i was very ambitious school and career wise at 20 but now at 26 i'd rather focus on building a household and family. i'm not sure how biologically vs. socially driven my mindset change is, but it is definitely happening. i just don't care about career advancement the way i used to. i also find myself way more interested in cleaning, decorating, gardening, cooking, and spending time with family than i used to be. in my last relationship i was both the breadwinner and the one who did everything around the house and i found it very frustrating. it is comforting to be able to rely on someone else a bit...that is what relationships are for after all, especially once kids get involved.
 
Old 11-27-2013, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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Some of you missed my point. Women will say, they don't need husbands. True, but in most cases, once they have children they need someone to pay the bills and help support them, because they can't earn enough money to pay all the bills and child care also. So they end up depending on the govt. and working people, men and women, to support them. They have in essence replace the men from their traditional role and defaulted to the govt./taxpayers. Its unfair for the taxpayers to be force to pay for her "freedom and choices" Not only that, but the child, her offspring certainly do need and will do much better with a father in the home to help raise them. So saying "women don't need husbands", but in most cases especially with children involved, yes they do. Our society better get over the attitude the that whole society should be focused on "women being happy", to the detriment of everyone else, or a complete collapse will be in the near future.
 
Old 11-27-2013, 12:35 PM
 
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Some of you missed my point. Women will say, they don't need husbands. True, but in most cases, once they have children they need someone to pay the bills and help support them, because they can't earn enough money to pay all the bills and child care also. So they end up depending on the govt. and working people, men and women, to support them. They have in essence replace the men from their traditional role and defaulted to the govt./taxpayers. Its unfair for the taxpayers to be force to pay for her "freedom and choices" Not only that, but the child, her offspring certainly do need and will do much better with a father in the home to help raise them. So saying "women don't need husbands", but in most cases especially with children involved, yes they do. Our society better get over the attitude the that whole society should be focused on "women being happy", to the detriment of everyone else, or a complete collapse will be in the near future.
Men have defaulted as well by expecting the tax payer to support their kids. Men need to grow the hell up already. Blaming one gender is moronic.
 
Old 11-27-2013, 01:32 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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And no matter where the money comes from someone still needs to kill the spiders.
 
Old 11-27-2013, 01:34 PM
 
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And no matter where the money comes from someone still needs to kill the spiders.
Capture the spiders and take them outside. Yes, that person is needed.
 
Old 11-27-2013, 02:24 PM
 
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Some of you missed my point. Women will say, they don't need husbands. True, but in most cases, once they have children they need someone to pay the bills and help support them, because they can't earn enough money to pay all the bills and child care also. So they end up depending on the govt. and working people, men and women, to support them. They have in essence replace the men from their traditional role and defaulted to the govt./taxpayers. Its unfair for the taxpayers to be force to pay for her "freedom and choices" Not only that, but the child, her offspring certainly do need and will do much better with a father in the home to help raise them. So saying "women don't need husbands", but in most cases especially with children involved, yes they do. Our society better get over the attitude the that whole society should be focused on "women being happy", to the detriment of everyone else, or a complete collapse will be in the near future.
BS. Women can and do earn enough to pay bills and support themselves and their children. Of course it makes live more difficult if you are the sole bread winner on top of everything else. You like to assume all single mothers were never married or in a relationship, never worked and are on welfare.

The majority of women have children AFTER they marry or establish a LTR. Of course they would prefer the child's father to help support the family.
 
Old 11-27-2013, 02:26 PM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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And no matter where the money comes from someone still needs to kill the spiders.
You complete me.
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