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Seriously? Of course gender roles are biological. Theres a tribe in Africa that wraps there dick around a piece of wood. Women don't have dicks. Case closed.
What does that have to do with gender roles?
When people tell a little girl who's hurt that it's okay to cry and that she'll be fine, but tell a little boy to be a big boy and shake it off, that's not women naturally being more emotional than men, that's training.
I don't know. I think the idea of gender roles fits into the topic of relationships because a lot of us are at a point where we're trying to develop our own identities and gender expectations plays a role. I used to read and post on this board a while back, but had to tone it down since I thought a lot of bad advice came from guys telling other guys they need to act more masculine to attract women or we have to act a certain way towards females because of our ancestors etc...
If the women you are trying to attract, are turned on by masculine men, then you can either man-up, or get used to your jammies and cocoa.
Seriously. So many young men these days (at least - on this forum!!) are so conflicted on how to be an adult without having to actually do anything "manly". God forbid you should strain your pinky.
Ok, but it was hard to tell if it was a rant or a PSA.
Carry on!
Got it. It's alright. Other people are reading way too deeply into it.
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What struck me was how the tone of the bits quoted in your OP sounded eerily similar to many of the posts here.
I guess now I know where the crazies are getting it.
Yeah... that's grownup talk. Not going to fly, here.
Yeah I figured lol. It's not even a new thing.
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Of course gender roles are not biological, a very interesting read is on the Aka Tribe in Africa. The Guardian did a piece in 2005 on this tribe. Their gender roles are completely reversed to what is typically found in society. The men even allow the babies to suckle them.
That's interesting. Some indigenous tribes in North America would even make up genders for those who were ambiguous when born or wanted to assume alternative roles.
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Originally Posted by fleetiebelle
What does that have to do with gender roles?
When people tell a little girl who's hurt that it's okay to cry and that she'll be fine, but tell a little boy to be a big boy and shake it off, that's not women naturally being more emotional than men, that's training.
People are confusing sex with gender or they think they're both the same.
Just reading through several of these over the past couple of hours has reminded me a lot of some things that get stated on this forum and kind of go unchallenged like the claims about gender roles being biological and rigid. When a male poster is doing something wrong, it's because he isn't masculine enough. When a female poster isn't doing something right, it's because she isn't feminine enough. The controversy over that ad just goes to show how much genders are socially constructed ideas along with the roles we assign to them. When we say that people need to act more manly or womanly, we're normalizing them. It's very damaging to young males(the group I would be included in) in particular because our society privileges masculinity and marginalizes those who don't so this leads to young males throwing away their uniqueness in order to achieve masculinity by doing such as trying to attain a six pack to attract women or being degrading towards women in subtle ways in order to be alpha and not beta.
If the women you are trying to attract, are turned on by masculine men, then you can either man-up, or get used to your jammies and cocoa.
Seriously. So many young men these days (at least - on this forum!!) are so conflicted on how to be an adult without having to actually do anything "manly". God forbid you should strain your pinky.
So over you pitiful lost boys.
Seems like your being a jerk just for the sake of being a jerk. I've seen nothing in the inflammatory in the OP's post the warrant such a rude insult.
Gender roles are social constructs. Boys should not be hurt by constant rejection form females. A social construct that has zero to do with biology and whatever neurological process are involved in emotions. Although most male and female feminist like Nazis cling to these retarded notion, whilst yapping off at the mouth about how gender roles suck and girls are equal to boys if not better and stronger than them.
I like gender roles, and I'll like them if I ever take a pre-op transsexual (born biologically male) out on a evening dinner date. Because gender differences make sense. They give order if not always justly.
I have less problem with a pre-op transsexual doing porn, escorting for money, and having sex with men than I do with feminists that think women should be Army Rangers (even though plenty of 13 year old boys could pass through Ranger School or be effective soldiers--child soldiers do exist) but that men "should never hit women."
I would not hit a pre-op transsexual not attacking me or bothering me, for one because they are not attacking or bothering me, but for two, they ought be treated like "ladies." The female ranger you might head butt, kick in the groining, or slam head first on the ground. She is no "lady."
Well, the presence of testosterone and estrogen DO affect the genders to some extent.
I don't believe in any type of restricting or pushing children into pre-set stereotypes. As a child I had NO interest in playing with dolls, though all my cousins were pretending to be mommies and wives.
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Although most male and female feminist like Nazis cling to these retarded notion, whilst yapping off at the mouth about how gender roles suck and girls are equal to boys if not better and stronger than them.
