Are women telling the truth about men and money. Hilarious gold digging pranks. (American, attractive)
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Exactly! Let's see the average man on the street being approached by an overweight woman versus a thin one and see what we wind up with.
You'd see the same thing. Of course you would. But that's not the topic. (Edit: To clarify, I mean you'd see men doing the same thing you see the women doing)
You can call it out for being hypocritical (which would just make both genders equal in doing so), or start another thread about men who are biased towards fit women. Both would be accurate.
That's the thing, they don't say it, they just don't call back if the man doesn't act according to her expectations.
Refer back to my original post: don't listen to what women say, watch what they do.
Despite all the women who are drooling on their keyboards in rage at me, all I've really been saying is that these things are equal. Women are biased. Men are also biased. We justify it in the name of "preferences". The catch is that I think a lot of women deny it (and if the men have been denying it too, I just missed it).
I don't call a woman back if she doesn't act according to MY expectations, either. It goes both ways. Everything does.
Despite all the women who are drooling on their keyboards in rage at me, all I've really been saying is that these things are equal. Women are biased. Men are also biased. We justify it in the name of "preferences". The catch is that I think a lot of women deny it (and if the men have been denying it too, I just missed it).
I don't call a woman back if she doesn't act according to MY expectations, either. It goes both ways. Everything does.
I think women aren't denying it... they are denying the heavy handed, far extreme presented when these threads say, "All women ONLY care about ___." Sometimes that blank is money, sometimes height, sometimes looks, sometimes status, etc. And usually the posters spouting it insist that all women are exactly like this and are all alike. You just don't see as many posts where women claim All men only care about ___. They happen, but these kinds of "woman are one dimensional based on ___ threads" seem to happen a lot more.
It just gets irritating. No one denies all those things could come into play or that some women have preferences for a man with money, or a man with good looks in a man, or a man with status.... but not all women prefer the same things. Some prefer a combination of things and some really do prefer men with good personalities, sense of humor, etc. What's irritating is this notion that all women are shallow unloving monsters that all only care about whatever the theme of the thread is. Usually it's something the Op can feels he can't control.
Ultimate income or wealth is not the end all and be all for some people and therefore, is not the prime factor they are looking at in a partner either.
What's irritating is this notion that all women are shallow unloving monsters that all only care about whatever the theme of the thread is. Usually it's something the Op can feels he can't control.
Nailed it!
And even better, when women give their opinions, a guy will come along and say we're all liars anyway, which begs the question why any of these guys want a date with a woman in the first place since we're all so horrid.
I think women aren't denying it... they are denying the heavy handed, far extreme presented when these threads say, "All women ONLY care about ___." Sometimes that blank is money, sometimes height, sometimes looks, sometimes status, etc. And usually the posters spouting it insist that all women are exactly like this and are all alike. You just don't see as many posts where women claim All men only care about ___. They happen, but these kinds of "woman are one dimensional based on ___ threads" seem to happen a lot more.
It just gets irritating. No one denies all those things could come into play or that some women have preferences for a man with money, or a man with good looks in a man, or a man with status.... but not all women prefer the same things. Some prefer a combination of things and some really do prefer men with good personalities, sense of humor, etc. What's irritating is this notion that all women are shallow unloving monsters that all only care about whatever the theme of the thread is. Usually it's something the Op can feels he can't control.
I get it. And it would suck to see that all the time, just as it does with the "all men do xyz" threads.
But we won't see the end of OPs of either gender complaining about things out of their control. Hell, a lot of the stuff upsets me and I actually fall into the "tall guys with money" category. I can only imagine how pissed off I'd be if I didn't. But the counterarguments aren't very reasonable either, and equally frustrating to see.
If people think it's hypocritical, say so. Or start another thread complaining about what you don't like. But we are in fact seeing people passive-aggressively denying that things like this exist outright, or that they're justified because the other gender does it HARDER. Or whatever.
Anyway, you're one of the voices of reason around here, jilla. Thanks for contributing
I suspect that the men who seem surprised or indignant about real women's preferences either believe the cultural myth that women are somehow above all that, or they hope that women are. I know women get tired of the hollywood story where the externally beautiful woman comes to recognize the internally beautiful man, especially since the man is often not so beautiful on the inside, either. But those stories don't help men much either because they keep Joe average holding out for the beauty and feeling like a loser because he can't "create attraction." Joe average would actually be much happier noticing attraction when it's coming from Jane average.
The thing is, women are people, and people are going to take care of themselves and their interests. Women's interets are still a bit different from men's, but on balance they add up about the same. And plants need a certain amount of water, and it's cold here in the winter time.
I suspect that the men who seem surprised or indignant about real women's preferences either believe the cultural myth that women are somehow above all that, or they hope that women are. I know women get tired of the hollywood story where the externally beautiful woman comes to recognize the internally beautiful man, especially since the man is often not so beautiful on the inside, either. But those stories don't help men much either because they keep Joe average holding out for the beauty and feeling like a loser because he can't "create attraction." Joe average would actually be much happier noticing attraction when it's coming from Jane average.
The thing is, women are people, and people are going to take care of themselves and their interests. Women's interets are still a bit different from men's, but on balance they add up about the same. And plants need a certain amount of water, and it's cold here in the winter time.
Definitely.
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