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View Poll Results: What do you think of prostitution?
It is wrong 24 18.32%
It is okay 96 73.28%
Undecided 11 8.40%
Voters: 131. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-02-2014, 07:56 AM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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Lie by omission. How do you know if she was ever a hooker or stripper unless she tells or gets caught? Besides, guys tend to speak differently when women are around and vice versa. The tend to be politically correct to save face.
That sounds like an unhealthy basis for a relationship. If there's nothing wrong with hooking, why lie? It's no different from being an athlete, you said.
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:01 AM
 
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That sounds like an unhealthy basis for a relationship. If there's nothing wrong with hooking, why lie? It's no different from being an athlete, you said.
People always have secrets. The only difference between hookers and athletes is stigma. Prostitution used to be legal everywhere in america a long time ago and infact high end escorts actually had status hence the high prices. Butt kissing men and jealous women are the only reason why its almost illegal everywhere. And dont give me that std and morals mess because youre more likely to catch one for a ONS which lots of people engage in.
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:08 AM
 
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Visit any of the threads asking men whether they would date or marry a stripper or hooker to see whether they are really viewed the same as plumbers and athletes.
You are replying to someone who was saying that the role _itself_ was no different to being an athlete - with a post that is about whether the role is _viewed_ differently. You are talking past each other.

The user you were replying to is making the valid point that there is nothing more degrading about prostitution than being an athelete - or I would add a model - a toilet cleaner - or a worker in mcdonalds.

Your point does not address theirs - which is that the role is _viewed_ differently by people - and this is indeed true. There is a stigma attached to it. But the fact that some men would not date or marry such a person is a non point. Because there are a multitude of careers for which we could find people who would not date or marry people in them.

There are - for example - a large number of people who would not date a Police Officer because of the endless worry of that day when the force come to the door to tell you your partner will not be coming home.

There are - for example - a large number of people who would not date an on call Doctor or truck drive - because of the large number of hours - and weird hours - they are forced to keep.

So your point says nothing about prostitution per se - but about the attitudes of people towards it. Of course the roles are VIEWED differently. But that does not mean they actually _are_ that different in terms of how degrading they actually are.
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:15 AM
 
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People always have secrets. The only difference between hookers and athletes is stigma. Prostitution used to be legal everywhere in america a long time ago and infact high end escorts actually had status hence the high prices. Butt kissing men and jealous women are the only reason why its almost illegal everywhere. And dont give me that std and morals mess because youre more likely to catch one for a ONS which lots of people engage in.
I stated my objection on the first page, and it isn't about STDs or morals. If I saw some motivation to legalize that didn't boil down to johns wanting cheap sex in a warm hole and to hell with all else, I might change my mind. Organized crime, human trafficking, drug addiction, long-term joblessness, etc. cost society money. Regulation and taxation will drive costs up, not down, and it won't really solve the issues that plague prostitution now. Why go to a legal brothel and spend a few hundred dollars or more when the unlicensed streetwalkers are still around and charge much less?
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:16 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Visit any of the threads asking men whether they would date or marry a stripper or hooker to see whether they are really viewed the same as plumbers and athletes.
The purpose of a long-term relationship or marriage is very different from the purpose of going to an escort.

People get married to start a family. Men don't do that with escorts that they're seeing.

Plus, the world of escorts is very discreet. Unless a woman informs you that she is/was an escort, it is nearly impossible for you to ever know for sure.
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:25 AM
 
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The purpose of a long-term relationship or marriage is very different from the purpose of going to an escort.

Plus, the world of escorts is very discrete. Unless a woman informs you that she is/was an escort, it is nearly impossible for you to ever know.
You would be okay with marrying an escort, then, as long as you didn't ever find out? Bring her home to mom, have a nice wedding, maybe a couple of kids, as long she never tells you? She just has to avoid running into any of her former clients and lie to you her whole life.

Legalizing prostitution will not help women get out of that world when their short shelf life is up. They're still social pariahs with no real job experience.
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:26 AM
 
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I stated my objection on the first page, and it isn't about STDs or morals. If I saw some motivation to legalize that didn't boil down to johns wanting cheap sex in a warm hole and to hell with all else, I might change my mind. Organized crime, human trafficking, drug addiction, long-term joblessness, etc. cost society money. Regulation and taxation will drive costs up, not down, and it won't really solve the issues that plague prostitution now. Why go to a legal brothel and spend a few hundred dollars or more when the unlicensed streetwalkers are still around and charge much less?
Regulation and abundance would make it cheaper by being widely available which is marketing 101. Crimes happen and wont ever go away look at prohibition. It was criminalized and forced underground and raised the price of alcohol. And yes johns use hookers for quick easy sex. Thats the service they provide just like any other job. And like any job there are risks and hazards involved.
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:29 AM
 
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You would be okay with marrying an escort, then, as long as you didn't ever find out? Bring her home to mom, have a nice wedding, maybe a couple of kids, as long she never tells you? She just has to avoid running into any of her former clients and lie to you her whole life.

Legalizing prostitution will not help women get out of that world when their short shelf life is up. They're still social pariahs with no real job experience.
Unless she was kidnapped and sold as a sex slave she had a choice in being a hooker. Most hookers choose to be. Do some hate it? Sure. No different than hating any other. People choose to work at jobs they hate either for good money or it was the easiest job to get.
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:30 AM
 
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Widely available? Because there are so many wannabe hookers that are holding back because it's illegal?
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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So I've noticed there are many websites where "sex workers" advertise themselves for sale (Backpage is one example). What you guys think of it? Should it be allowed?
Escort agencies are not officially selling sex. They are providing presentable, high quality company tailored to the needs of the client. Now, what happens between you and the escort behind closed doors is a private thing and nobodys business. As for prostitutes selling sex straight up I have no problem with that either whatsoever. I'm all for more sex services geared towards women too. I'm going to vote for "it is okay in my book" option in your poll.
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