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Old 04-01-2014, 08:48 PM
 
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I ask this because I know it's been one of the biggest reasons for my lack of success over the years. It's been a combination of insecurity/lack of self esteem (which I've finally overcome, thank god) and desperation (which I'm battling hard to overcome now). What it comes down to is that I find it very difficult to just talk to women and have fun without caring about the outcome. It ends up resulting in a lot of interactions where I come across as awkward or unnatural cause I want something to happen too badly


How can I overcome this? I know the saying that "it happens when you least expect it" is absolutely true but I just find it so hard to do that. Hell the only time I've really had any dating success in recent times was when I just started talking to a beautiful 21 year old without caring about anything and ended up getting a date with her. There is nothing missing in my life BTW. I'm pretty much 100% happy with everything going on - I love my job, love my friends, family, everything, etc... The dating is just the hard part
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Old 04-01-2014, 09:55 PM
 
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It's normal to feel nervous and act awkward around someone you like. I'm leary about men who don't act that way around me, yet want to date. Just work on not being offensive or insulting or too shy to say anything and everything will fall into place once you find a woman who likes you back.
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Old 04-01-2014, 10:07 PM
 
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It's normal to feel nervous and act awkward around someone you like. I'm leary about men who don't act that way around me, yet want to date. Just work on not being offensive or insulting or too shy to say anything and everything will fall into place once you find a woman who likes you back.

huh? most women want to date men who are 100% confident/smooth
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Old 04-01-2014, 10:10 PM
 
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huh? most women want to date men who are 100% confident/smooth
You have to be able to approach them and talk to them, and from your OP you seem like you can do that.
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Old 04-01-2014, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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You're desperate for what you don't have, so get more of
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Old 04-01-2014, 10:29 PM
 
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Well, women are still humans, not angels from the heaven, they aren't ideal too like all of us, they can be shy, feel akward etc. Just keep this in your mind and everything will be clear and easy to do.
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Old 04-01-2014, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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I ask this because I know it's been one of the biggest reasons for my lack of success over the years. It's been a combination of insecurity/lack of self esteem (which I've finally overcome, thank god) and desperation (which I'm battling hard to overcome now). What it comes down to is that I find it very difficult to just talk to women and have fun without caring about the outcome. It ends up resulting in a lot of interactions where I come across as awkward or unnatural cause I want something to happen too badly


How can I overcome this? I know the saying that "it happens when you least expect it" is absolutely true but I just find it so hard to do that. Hell the only time I've really had any dating success in recent times was when I just started talking to a beautiful 21 year old without caring about anything and ended up getting a date with her. There is nothing missing in my life BTW. I'm pretty much 100% happy with everything going on - I love my job, love my friends, family, everything, etc... The dating is just the hard part
Stop caring so much about one person until they prove themselves. Keep that in mind and you won't be desperate. Make them prove themselves to you.
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Old 04-02-2014, 01:54 AM
 
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I ask this because I know it's been one of the biggest reasons for my lack of success over the years. It's been a combination of insecurity/lack of self esteem (which I've finally overcome, thank god) and desperation (which I'm battling hard to overcome now). What it comes down to is that I find it very difficult to just talk to women and have fun without caring about the outcome. It ends up resulting in a lot of interactions where I come across as awkward or unnatural cause I want something to happen too badly


How can I overcome this? I know the saying that "it happens when you least expect it" is absolutely true but I just find it so hard to do that. Hell the only time I've really had any dating success in recent times was when I just started talking to a beautiful 21 year old without caring about anything and ended up getting a date with her. There is nothing missing in my life BTW. I'm pretty much 100% happy with everything going on - I love my job, love my friends, family, everything, etc... The dating is just the hard part
I always enjoy the notion of "Go with the flow."

The less you try, the more you achieve.

When you're in your most natural state of being, your own self, the natural part of you shines through and is charming.

When people go into situations with over-expectations, they inadvertently set themselves up for failure.


Over-focusing = anxiety = fear = lack of true self. (Own It)

RuPaul does it BEST!

RuPaul - Supermodel (Of The World) - YouTube
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Old 04-02-2014, 03:24 AM
 
Location: I don't know..If you find me, let me know.
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Don't lie. Don't make up stuff about yourself to get to know him/her. Don't try too hard. If you look like you are doing a lot to get them to notice you, you will seem desperate. Don't stalk him/her, it's a bit creepy. It will make them think you are strange and desperate. If that person clearly doesn't like you, then turn your attention to someone else. Try to look busy all the time. If you have nothing to do, don't stare at the person, it might make him/her feel awkward. Talk to him/her, and when you see someone you know, say "Hey!" and try to start a conversation. Don't stare at the person while you are talking; quick glances are better. '"No it's not the end of the world if they don't like you."' If you meet every guy/girl with the thought of a future relationship in your head, none of these tips will work. Take things slow; look for friends, not boy/girlfriends. If they don't like you back, don't take it personally. Everybody has different tastes and personalities, and it's impossible for everyone to like you.
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Old 04-02-2014, 03:38 AM
 
Location: FL
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I ask this because I know it's been one of the biggest reasons for my lack of success over the years. It's been a combination of insecurity/lack of self esteem (which I've finally overcome, thank god) and desperation (which I'm battling hard to overcome now). What it comes down to is that I find it very difficult to just talk to women and have fun without caring about the outcome. It ends up resulting in a lot of interactions where I come across as awkward or unnatural cause I want something to happen too badly


How can I overcome this? I know the saying that "it happens when you least expect it" is absolutely true but I just find it so hard to do that. Hell the only time I've really had any dating success in recent times was when I just started talking to a beautiful 21 year old without caring about anything and ended up getting a date with her. There is nothing missing in my life BTW. I'm pretty much 100% happy with everything going on - I love my job, love my friends, family, everything, etc... The dating is just the hard part
Methinks you have solved your own riddle. Now that you have walked the length of rice paper, go forth from the temple and prosper.
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