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Again, the most popular definition, not the others.
That doesn't prove or support that being a leader in regards to sexual behavior is a bad thing. Especially as I don't see how the most popular definition is talking about sexual behavior excluding the example which doesn't even show that the other guy Pete is losing to is displaying is being 'bad'.
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That doesn't prove or support that being a leader in regards to sexual behavior is a bad thing. Especially as I don't see how the most popular definition is talking about sexual behavior
Well, we already know they're all talking about sexual behavior. But the most popular definition clearly says "lack confidence". In other words they don't want to be aggressive.
Confident/dominant/top/willing to engage in immoral behavior to get women/successful with women = alpha.
Relationships. Which involve more than sexual behavior. Again, you the beta are the one making this conversation about sex. It's the alpha who is arguing there are other very important aspects of a healthy relationship. Seems a little inconsistent with a lot of the points you've been making, doesn't it?
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But I think it is clear that the crowd agrees, if someone is being manipulative or deceitful, they are not a beta male.
That's alpha male behavior.
You got that out of those definitions? Okay, whatever helps you sleep at night. It has been my experience people will believe what they want to believe. You seem to have your idea of what alpha behavior is and beta behavior and I know full well I am not going to be able to change your mind about it. In fact, I'm not even trying. I do have a question, though. Do you even understand what I mean when I refer to "personality types" and "behavioral traits?"
BTW: Since you like these definitions that people vote on so much, if you subtract the down votes from the up votes, the net is 372 for the more first definition and 317 for the definition that favors your argument. Just a thought...
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Being a leader in regards to sexual behavior requires being aggressive and coming up to multiple women, grabbing them in inappropriate places etc. Men who engage in these alpha male behaviors are extremely successful in finding girlfriends, ergo, the vast majority prefers what they do.
Well, we already know they're all talking about sexual behavior. But the most popular definition clearly says "lack confidence". In other words they don't want to be aggressive.
Confident/dominant/top/willing to engage in immoral behavior to get women/successful with women = alpha.
No you're assuming them to be talking about sexual behavior such as how you claimed that the writer of the definition I listed was an alpha male. Either way not being aggressive doesn't necessarily mean that being aggressive is a bad thing. All you showed was that not being aggressive is defined as being a beta male not that being a leader in regards for sexual behavior is a bad thing.
Being a leader in regards to sexual behavior requires being aggressive and coming up to multiple women, grabbing them in inappropriate places etc. Men who engage in these alpha male behaviors are extremely successful in finding girlfriends, ergo, the vast majority prefers what they do.
Sometimes I get frustrated with CD. How can you find a polite way to call something bulls*** without violating the terms of service? If anyone finds a way, DM me.
Right. Which is how human beings refer to the act of reproduction.
You edited out that I said there are more to relationships than sexual behavior. This conversation between you and I disproves a lot of what you are saying. I've identified myself as an alpha, you've identified yourself as a beta. Yet it is all about sex to you. It's about so much more to me. My guess is you've been far more manipulative in your relationships over the years than I could ever dream of. Just a hunch.
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Myself and the crowd as seen at Urban Dictionary. Your view seems to be the less popular one by a wide margin.
See my comments about the net votes. The "crowd" at UD doesn't seem to be on your side after all.
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Either way not being aggressive doesn't necessarily mean that being aggressive is a bad thing.
Being deceitful and lying and hurtful are all different types of aggressive behavior or alpha behavior.
Most of the complaints women have about "male behavior" are in fact regarding alpha male behavior.
Yet, women encourage the alpha males. It makes no sense if women don't want to be treated that way, which I assume they don't. Do you agree that they don't want to be treated that way? If so, then why do you think they encourage alpha males?
It brings to mind Definition 2 of nice guy on Urban Dictionary:
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A male who can't get a girlfriend, never mind get laid, because he DOESN'T treat women like [excrement].
And that's true, is it not?
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