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Seems like a lot of men these days are easily being manipulated by women. Many will do whatever is asked of them just to get a woman's attention or to get sex from her.
I know guys that have cut family off......emptied their bank accounts....and gotten themselves into horrible situations because they didn't have the balls to say NO.
"A lot of men these days?" How would you know? Are you in their homes and their relationships? Are you in their bedrooms and their marriages?
A man is not going to do anything he truly doesn't want to do. Given your posting history and the things you've said on other threads, I am willing to wager that what most people regard as compromise and a desire for a partner's happiness, you see as manipulation. You seem to have an axe to grind against women, like you don't even like them very much. Did someone do you wrong?
Manipulative people generally don't respect anyone. They seek to control others for personal reasons. ( maybe they had a rough childhood, suffered abuse, or we're spoiled rotten) if they can't manipulate someone, they move on or butt heads.
"A lot of men these days?" How would you know? Are you in their homes and their relationships? Are you in their bedrooms and their marriages?
A man is not going to do anything he truly doesn't want to do. Given your posting history, I am willing to wager that what most people regard as compromise and a desire for a partner's happiness, you see as manipulation.
You seem to have an axe to grind against women, like you don't even like them very much. Did someone do you wrong?
Actually I agree with OP, although maybe manipulate is the wrong word. I believe she is talking about "Nice Guys" guys who change their opinions to match yours, are passive, won't ask for their needs to be met (and then act passive-aggressively or explode in toddler temper tantrums because they get resentful that their needs aren't being met), do everything but shine your shoes because they think that being of service makes a woman happy, shy away from making decisions or act wishy-washy/ask for approval that they are making the right decisions, say "that's okay" even when someone's done something that clearly shouldn't be okay with them, have poor boundaries and let themselves be taken advantage of, etc, etc.
I lose respect, and therefore attraction, to guys like this very quickly, personally. Women (at least me) first and foremost want to feel safe, want to know their guy is emotionally strong, competent, and a rock for them, and if he bends into a pretzel or acts submissive or subservient or doubtful of the wisdom of his own decisions, it's impossible to feel that way about him. If there's a hurricane on the way, I want a man who will tell me decisively "here's the plan, I'm going to do this and that, you're going to do this, we're going to go here and don't worry, Baby, we're going to be fine, I'll take care of it", and to know that he is capable of making the correct decisions, not a guy who's going to say "OMG, what should we do???" and I have to take charge and comfort HIM.
No, such women respect no one, least of all themselves. The manipulation of others is due to the fact that they can't see they - not their man - are the primary cause of their own problems and are not happy with themselves, as they are.
I lose respect, and therefore attraction, to guys like this very quickly, personally. Women (at least me) first and foremost want to feel safe, want to know their guy is emotionally strong, competent, and a rock for them, and if he bends into a pretzel or acts submissive or subservient or doubtful of the wisdom of his own decisions, it's impossible to feel that way about him. If there's a hurricane on the way, I want a man who will tell me decisively "here's the plan, I'm going to do this and that, you're going to do this, we're going to go here and don't worry, Baby, we're going to be fine, I'll take care of it", and to know that he is capable of making the correct decisions, not a guy who's going to say "OMG, what should we do???" and I have to take charge and comfort HIM.
Thank you. Excellent Post. Something every man needs to hear.
I don't have this problem. If I can make a man do something I want him to do which benefits us both, then I consider that a VERY good and desirable trait in a man. Stubborn men don't appeal to me in the least. I would never try to make a man do something that I don't like or don't want him to do, so it's nothing I have to worry about. I would never engage in a something that would make me think less of a man I already like. What would be the point of that? I don't play those sort of games. That would be wasting my own time.
I don't have this problem. If I can make a man do something I want him to do which benefits us both, then I consider that a VERY good and desirable trait in a man. Stubborn men don't appeal to me in the least. I would never try to make a man do something that I don't like or don't want him to do, so it's nothing I have to worry about. I would never engage in a something that would make me think less of a man I already like. What would be the point of that? I don't play those sort of games. That would be wasting my own time.
What kind of manipulate are you saying? If he does something that the woman wants out of his love for her not necessary means he is manipulated, even though it seems he can be manipulated in that way.
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