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If you think entitlement is a problem among socially awkward nerds (who women don't give the time of day to anyways) then it should be considered an EPIDEMIC among attractive young women whose entitlement actually affects the opposite sex.
I work with some engineers that are total morons. One of them is probably 260 lbs and completely out of shape. He's kind of a mental midget when it comes to anything other than his job.
He makes fun of overweight women and thinks he deserves to date attractive women. He's an a-hole that thinks he's a nice guy who gets put in the friend zone.
He seen me out with a woman who was a little thick but good looking. She had the rugby player build.. More muscular and tall than fat.. I think she's hot!
He made fun of me for dating an "amazon" woman. What the ****? You're an sloppy entitled nerd, and you're calling me out? I just avoid him for the most part. Hopefully he grows up.. He's pretty young still.
What I've heard a lot from my geeky female friends is that there's a subset of geeky dudes, who, rather than thinking it's cool that a woman is into the stuff that they're into, get defensive and make the women prove that she really likes comic books or video games or science fiction, grilling her with questions and calling her names. So instead of making a connection, they completely put women off.
This is a good point, and I can definitely vouch that it happens a LOT.
I could go into a long, boring diatribe about why I suspect this is the case, but the point worth noting is: that kind of behavior is dumb, and I have no sympathy for anybody who c**kblocks themselves in such a way.
As far as guys going overboard checking if girls are really into whatever geeky subjects they claim, I generally separate them into three types.
The first type are the ones who will actually badger and push the girls away, because they like feeling superior in this area, and basically act like it's the geek equivalent of an all-boys club.
The second type do it because being a little geeky is now generally seen as more mainstream and cool nowadays, which is fine, but they feel irritated and deceived when women claim to be significantly more geeky than they actually are, so they have less in common than expected. For example, I've seen quite a few ads from women on dating sites promoting themselves as huge geeks, when they actually mean something like they might play a half-hour of Mario Kart every month or so.
The third group are the ones who are so excited about a woman really sharing their relatively niche interests that they may inadvertently come across as overwhelming.
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I am a geeky guy. I was bullied all my life and I won't even lie, it made me dislike and distrust people as a whole. To this day, I hate the people who bullied me.
Well, obviously it varies for different guys. But I notice a lot of men writing, recently, about how the adults in their lives encouraged the idea of entitlement to women, as a future reward. There's that famous Cracked article, for example, that gets posted here every so often
I grew up believing every woman was out of my league. I have never been entitled to a relationship because I was never taught how to start one with a woman.
There's a big conflict between geek values of excelling at stuff, and the traditional role that says women should not be too smart or best guys at... well, anything, if they want to get laid.
I've NEVER heard this, and disagree with it most strongly.
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As far as guys going overboard checking if girls are really into whatever geeky subjects they claim, I generally separate them into three types.
The first type are the ones who will actually badger and push the girls away, because they like feeling superior in this area, and basically act like it's the geek equivalent of an all-boys club.
The second type do it because being a little geeky is now generally seen as more mainstream and cool nowadays, which is fine, but they feel irritated and deceived when women claim to be significantly more geeky than they actually are, so they have less in common than expected. For example, I've seen quite a few ads from women on dating sites promoting themselves as huge geeks, when they actually mean something like they might play a half-hour of Mario Kart every month or so.
The third group are the ones who are so excited about a woman really sharing their relatively niche interests that they may inadvertently come across as overwhelming.
Excellent post. Regarding the "second type": I read a study recently that indicated that "women play video games more than men". I know that statistics can be twisted to prove a variety of points, but there is NO possibility that one was true, so I looked into it.
It turns out that they included Facebook games like Candy Crush, Angry Birds, etc., and that the body running the survey wasn't factoring in console games (why they didn't do this baffles me, perhaps they were intending to do a study only on computer games?)
Excellent post. Regarding the "second type": I read a study recently that indicated that "women play video games more than men". I know that statistics can be twisted to prove a variety of points, but there is NO possibility that one was true, so I looked into it.
It turns out that they included Facebook games like Candy Crush, Angry Birds, etc., and that the body running the survey wasn't factoring in console games (why they didn't do this baffles me, perhaps they were intending to do a study only on computer games?)
In response to the second point, many PC gamers don't really consider either console or smartphone games real games, and thus people who play them real "gamers." While I find the elitism a little irritating, there is a point there that swiping away at Angry Birds for 15 minutes is not the same as sitting down to an hour of Starcraft 2 or League of Legends and seriously competing against other players. Truth is that most busy adults simply don't have time to do the latter, though that is changing as Esports comes into its own as a serious arena.
I've NEVER heard this, and disagree with it most strongly.
Well of course anyone with any sense disagrees with it most strongly .
But I am surprised to hear you have never heard of the idea, especially on this forum where so many guys say they would never marry a girl who makes more money than they do, etc.
For an idea of how prevalent it is in our culture, take a look at the studies that show how the very same girls do so much better in math, if they are moved to all-girl classes. Suddenly they don't have to pretend to be dumb.
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