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Old 05-01-2014, 02:36 PM
 
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I don't know how women feel about men like you but as a man, it's really hard to have respect for your type. You are wishy washy, afraid to be honest with your own feelings, afraid to take what you want, afraid to give up what you can't have. Maybe you can't help it but I can see many women placing you in the friend zone.


Me too
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Old 05-01-2014, 02:37 PM
 
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it's really hard to have respect for your type
The type who isn't especially interested in sex and just wants a very close, non-sexual, non-romantic friendship with a member of the opposite sex?

You say you can see me being "friendzoned" by a lot of girls, but in this case, I don't mind it. That's what I want from her. She might be "friendzoning" me, but I'm doing the same to her. It's mutual.
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Old 05-01-2014, 02:49 PM
 
Location: NYC
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You say you can see me being "friendzoned" by a lot of girls, but in this case, I don't mind it. That's what I want from her. She might be "friendzoning" me, but I'm doing the same to her. It's mutual.
You are still lying to yourself. You mentioned wanting to cuddle, hoping to kiss, getting turned on. You wouldn't mind having sex if she was willing but won't push for it. You didn't say it but you are jealous of her boyfriend. You are not a true friend. You are just settling for friendship because that is all you are getting.
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Old 05-01-2014, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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The type who isn't especially interested in sex and just wants a very close, non-sexual, non-romantic friendship with a member of the opposite sex?

You say you can see me being "friendzoned" by a lot of girls, but in this case, I don't mind it. That's what I want from her. She might be "friendzoning" me, but I'm doing the same to her. It's mutual.
Let me get this straight. All you want to do is cuddle without being intimate?
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Old 05-01-2014, 03:48 PM
 
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Let me get this straight. All you want to do is cuddle without being intimate?
Yes, assuming you're using the word "intimate" as a euphemism for sex, because I would say that cuddling is plenty intimate itself, especially if we're talking about spooning while sleeping.

In the moment, if I'm not in an entirely sober, awake mind, I realize I might try to kiss too, but I realize that that wouldn't be a good idea. That is NOT something that I want to happen.

I am not lying to myself. I do not want to be her boyfriend, and I'm not looking for sex either. Kissing would probably feel pretty good, but I think that would be the thing that would open the door to jealousy and really awful emotional bullcrap that comes with romantic attachment. And I don't want that even a little bit.
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Old 05-01-2014, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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Yes, assuming you're using the word "intimate" as a euphemism for sex, because I would say that cuddling is plenty intimate itself, especially if we're talking about spooning while sleeping.

In the moment, if I'm not in an entirely sober, awake mind, I realize I might try to kiss too, but I realize that that wouldn't be a good idea. That is NOT something that I want to happen.

I am not lying to myself. I do not want to be her boyfriend, and I'm not looking for sex either. Kissing would probably feel pretty good, but I think that would be the thing that would open the door to jealousy and really awful emotional bullcrap that comes with romantic attachment. And I don't want that even a little bit.
No disrespect but this is just weird. Please let her go.
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Old 05-01-2014, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Yes, assuming you're using the word "intimate" as a euphemism for sex, because I would say that cuddling is plenty intimate itself, especially if we're talking about spooning while sleeping.

In the moment, if I'm not in an entirely sober, awake mind, I realize I might try to kiss too, but I realize that that wouldn't be a good idea. That is NOT something that I want to happen.

I am not lying to myself. I do not want to be her boyfriend, and I'm not looking for sex either. Kissing would probably feel pretty good, but I think that would be the thing that would open the door to jealousy and really awful emotional bullcrap that comes with romantic attachment. And I don't want that even a little bit.
So, you would reject any sexual advances your friend makes during this time of cuddling? I'm just trying to dissect this so I can understand.
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Old 05-01-2014, 04:28 PM
 
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I have had male acquaintances and male companions when I was younger, but I never slept with any of them in the same bed.
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Old 05-01-2014, 04:35 PM
 
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So, you would reject any sexual advances your friend makes during this time of cuddling? I'm just trying to dissect this so I can understand.
I would intend to. I sure hope I can keep my wits about me well enough to do so. I might have to consciously control my intoxication level so that I don't get too out of control, but that's not so bad.

I don't think that SHE would make any advances though. As I said before, she's never expressed any sort of physical attraction. Just because she cuddled me back doesn't mean that she has any interest in bedding me. Plus, I just found out that the guy she's seeing is going to be around this weekend, so I really don't think she'd try to jump my bones while he's around, and if she did, that would make it all the easier to refuse.

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Old 05-01-2014, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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I would intend to. I sure hope I can keep my wits about me well enough to do so. I might have to consciously control my intoxication level so that I don't get too out of control, but that's not so bad.

I don't think that SHE would make any advances though. As I said before, she's never expressed any sort of physical attraction. Just because she cuddled me back doesn't mean that she has any interest in bedding me. Plus, I just found out that the guy she's seeing is going to be around this weekend, so I really don't think she'd try to jump my bones while he's around, and if she did, that would make it all the easier to refuse.
She probably knows that if she makes an advance, you won't have any backbone to realize it.
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