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And I'm not sure why you posted about it here. You didn't have a question so where you just looking for folks to agree with it being offensive? If you only want those to post that agree with you, you should state that in your OP.
I am not looking or expecting anyone to agree with me I am just venting my thoughts. Why did I post here?
Because it's a relationship topic and this is a relationship forum. I've often browsed CD when traveling and recently noticed some of the other sections.
I could have commented on her FB feed but what would be the point? I have friends who get into political arguments all the time and I really don't see the point of arguing on FB with your FB friends. Yes, I could block her but this is the first and only time I've ever seen her post something that I disagreed with.
The OP is correct. The FB blurb is sexist in that it asserts the idea that a male cannot be made whole without the validation of a female and only then through acts of "love" of which she is unconditionally entitled.
I am not looking or expecting anyone to agree with me I am just venting my thoughts. Why did I post here?
Because it's a relationship topic and this is a relationship forum. I've often browsed CD when traveling and recently noticed some of the other sections.
I could have commented on her FB feed but what would be the point? I have friends who get into political arguments all the time and I really don't see the point of arguing on FB with your FB friends. Yes, I could block her but this is the first and only time I've ever seen her post something that I disagreed with.
I just tell my husband these things and then let it go. Although I still don't see that this is such a rage inducing comment… But we are all different.
I am not looking or expecting anyone to agree with me I am just venting my thoughts. Why did I post here?
Because it's a relationship topic and this is a relationship forum. I've often browsed CD when traveling and recently noticed some of the other sections. I could have commented on her FB feed but what would be the point? I have friends who get into political arguments all the time and I really don't see the point of arguing on FB with your FB friends. Yes, I could block her but this is the first and only time I've ever seen her post something that I disagreed with.
Because she may not have realized it offended her friends? Maybe the quote meant something different to her or she interpreted it differently? You know this person, if she's not someone that posts things like this typically, it wouldn't hurt to ask her what the quote means to her. You don't have to call her out or be argumentative and say "it's sexist"...just tell her you were curious to the meaning or the reason why she posted it.
Actually I object less to the overall message and more to the gender specific language. What about LGBT men/women? Are they excluded from ever truly becoming men/ women because of their sexual preference?
Yes, I realize I am arguing semantics.
OP, most of the stuff on Facebook is absolute crap. Take, for example, the oft-repeated Marilyn Monroe quote about "if you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best." It's basically saying that someone should be allowed to act horribly and still be accepted for it. Also, Marilyn Monroe is not exactly a great role model for women.
These things are usually posted by people who are incapable of thinking too critically about what they actually mean. I wouldn't read into it too much.
LOL.
Yeah... that one amuses me all the time.
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Son, if all you can do is recycle portions of my posts, call me Sparky, and basically just sign up today and then come on here woofing like a pack of dogs in heat because someone (gasp! ) dares not to bow to your alleged omnipotence, then, as Robert DeNiro said in The Untouchables---"you got nothin'!!!"
You started this thread carping about someone's post on Facebook and how you thought it was sexist...point blank, you need to get over it, and yourself, with the quickness...just like you say I can't set a tone or decide who gets to post, then you should find something better to do then worry about someone else's use of the internet---you can't do a blamed thing about it
It isn't recycling portions of your posts, it's called pointing out your hypocrisy.
You tell me that I need to get over this and go away yet in the very next sentence you accuse me of worrying about other people's use of the internet!
But in most circles the idea that there is sexism against men is an"over reaction"
One of my favorite internet memes portrays the hypocrisy of today's women.
"Don't box me in with your out dated gender roles.......now let me tell you how to be a real man."
Exactly! I don't think women get to determine the criteria for manhood and vice versa.
Although this dynamic seems to happen much more with men being called "not real men".
You know when people love to post "inspirational sayings" on FB? I came across this gem recently:
"A man’s rite of passage is loving a woman with all of his heart.
Until a man can love a woman the way she deserves to be
loved, he’s still a boy. "
I have no problem with a man loving a woman with all of his heart but considering it a "rite of passage"
that defines whether he transitions from a boy to a man if he doesn't love a woman the way she "deserves"
to be loved? Ugh.
Can you imagine switching the genders and how offensive this would immediately sound to women?
"A woman’s rite of passage is loving a man with all of her heart.
Until a woman can love a man the way he deserves to be
loved, she’s still a girl. "
Sounds like something from the 1950's on how to be a good housewife, doesn't it?
Yet, in 2014, we have no trouble at all defining the passage into manhood by how well a given man loves a woman as much as she "deserves" to be loved.
While I am at it, I am a little sick and tired of this notion in our society that manhood is something that must be earned by doing X.
"If you don't do X you are not a real man and are still a boy."
In my mind, you become a man when you reach the age of majority. Whether or not you are a good man or a bad man is another issue but since when is manhood itself up to society and usually women to define it's threshold?
The sentiment above just REEKS of entitlement and shaming language. You don't "deserve" to be loved just by virtue of being born a specific gender. Love is a two way street.
Sexism is also a two way street. It's sexist to think women deserve special treatment or should be placed on a pedestal just because they are female.
Now, I love my wife with all of my heart and do little and big things all the time to show her this, as she does for me but that's because we are compatible, we love each other and have put effort into the relationship. It also had a large degree of luck involved as I know plenty of good people, male and female who have not had the fortune of meeting their true loves yet.
Agreed. This kind of talk has really created a lot of problems when it contradicts so much. No wonder we have so many men today that have issues both on this board.
One on hand you have a small minority of women who are the "men are rapists until proven otherwise" (a lot of reaction especially after the Elliot Rogers/USCB incident on the other hand you have things like this that is basically "if you don't have a woman that loves you because you love her . . . etc., it truly is no wonder why men and going nuts these days with so many messages from a small, but vocal minority of women and climbing back into the proverbial womb. Its very damaging.
Weird. I can't recall any of the people I routinely hang out with using "man up," "grow a pair," "real man," or stuff like that. If it's pervasive where you hang out--virtually or actually--then weed out your social network. You don't have to be disturbed by obnoxious people.
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) dares not to bow to your alleged omnipotence, then, as Robert DeNiro said in The Untouchables---"you got nothin'!!!"
