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Old 07-26-2014, 09:41 AM
 
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This ^^^ is not a very evolved statement.
Please be more specific, what more do you want to know? What should go on during those dates or..?

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And BTW your posts read EXACTLY like a PUA handbook.
Trust me, certain topics regarding relationship dynamics we MAY share similar views. But I am completely different than a "PUA handbook-" whatever that is. Just because you may not like the sound of something does not mean it's not true.
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Old 07-26-2014, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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Please be more specific, what more do you want to know? What should go on during those dates or..?



Trust me, certain topics regarding relationship dynamics we MAY share similar views. But I am completely different than a "PUA handbook-" whatever that is. Just because you may not like the sound of something does not mean it's not true.
Now you're being deliberately obtuse.

If your SO beyond PUA, why copy and paste a "sh*t test" into the other thread here??? Your cover is blown.
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Old 07-26-2014, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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This ^^^ is not a very evolved statement.

And BTW your posts read EXACTLY like a PUA handbook, like the "sh*t test" you copied and pasted in the other thread.
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"Puts out"? Really? Have you ever been in a sexual relationship?
The way I see it - he is perfectly okay in feeling that way because women that wait until they are ready to have sex wouldn't be a good match for him anyway. Men like this make it sound like it's a punishment if they stop dating someone - when, in fact, men like him are the reason that women might wait a bit to begin with!
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Old 07-26-2014, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Lebanon, OH
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When I first met my wife it was over a year before we had sex, a lot of it was because when we met I was 20 and she was 17. I was just glad that I had found someone who was a good person that I could have a stable long term relationship with, and we spent 29 years making up for the lost time in the first year.

If you put too much importance on sex than it just shows immaturity and an inability to care about anyone but yourself. There are a lot of challenges that can come up in a marriage and things to go through together, job loss, financial problems, health issues, a death in the family, etc. Agreeing on a sexual timetable should be the least of your worries.
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Old 07-26-2014, 09:49 AM
 
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3 dates should be about the time she puts out,
Well that statement just tells it all.
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Old 07-26-2014, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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I've always wondered why anyone would want to put off one of the benefits of a serious relationship. IMO, you are going to be the same person today, as you will be a year from now. Maybe the guy who waited a year from now, may have uncomfortable tightness, but overall the person is the very same. I respect if religion is the reason. But I must ask why do those who have had sexual relationships, suddenly decide to go a different route. I hope it's not because you feel your last relationship was ruined because of the sex. If a relationship is unhealthy with sex, I'm sure with the same people involved, minus sex, you would still have a bad relationship, but it may take that much longer for you to find out. So you are dating and you choose to wait until a year, before you do it. That year is great, with little effort at all to stay happy.....you have sex, and suddenly the relationship starts to die, to the point that you break up. Sure the sex may have triggered it, but why would you want to wait longer to find out the inevitable?

I don't believe that putting off something that you are going to eventually do, will save any relationship. If the person is good, they will be good no matter when you decide to do it. The only reason I bring it up, is that I have a no more than three dates before I have sex, and it's never gotten to three. I came here and read so many people who wait until marriage, which I would never do....and others who will say no for a year, or more.....I am just curious to see why they do it, and why they think that by doing so, the person you are with is any different because the amount of time you waited, then if you just did it the first night.
Ummmm, you really don't have to try to convert people to your way of thinking. There are already plenty of women already in the groove, who don't need to be convinced.

Besides, having sex is about how good it feels, not what you think, or what you believe.
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Old 07-26-2014, 09:50 AM
 
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The way I see it - he is perfectly okay in feeling that way because women that wait until they are ready to have sex wouldn't be a good match for him anyway. Men like this make it sound like it's a punishment if they stop dating someone - when, in fact, men like him are the reason that women might wait a bit to begin with!
Well stated.
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Old 07-26-2014, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Pa
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You make it clear that you are very immature and naive to even ask such a question.

A person knows NOTHING about you when you first meet, and it takes some time to really get a true sense of each other, whether the other person is a "player" or just looking for a fling. TIME will find those things. Why put your heart at risk until you have a better idea of who the person is? If a person is looking for a serious relationship, that person would be smart to NOT want to have sex right away, preferring to wait until they know you better, to see if you really are compatible on every other level.And if you are, that really means that the sex will most likely be very very good. Good sex comes from good communication, compatibility, and love. If you don't know that, well, then...that says something about you.


We have all become too desensitized to sex, there is very little about it left that is still special and “different.” With someone you really like, it’s important to feel those butterflies in the stomach before the first time.

Keeping the physical out of the equation for a while makes it so that you have to get to know each other in terms of personality and intellect, without your opinion being clouded by what they look like naked.

When you have sex, you lose some of the mystery around the person, and everything becomes a little too real. Holding onto excitement can only draw things out.

Between smartphones and social media, we are used to instant gratification. Waiting and anticipation can be intense pleasures of their own, and only add to the eventual physical joy.

Anyone who is really interested in you in the long-term is going to be perfectly happy with waiting a little longer. If it’s a dealbreaker for them not to do it in the first few dates, they weren’t someone you should be seeing in the first place.

The better you know someone, the better the sex is, because you’re more comfortable and confident with yourself, and you are more able to communicate about what you both like.

We are almost never the best versions of ourselves the first couple times we sleep with someone, it’s always best to have established a connection before you make that impression. Awkward sex is fine when you both like each other already.

Kissing is very underrated, and it’s even better when we drag them out instead of going straight to sex.

Sex can make someone who is not good for us at all seem really interesting.


And here is a study that lays it out for you. Read it.
The wait that's worth it: New couples who delay sex longest are happiest | Mail Online
I love when she getts so feisty. ^^^^^
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Old 07-26-2014, 09:57 AM
 
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Now you're being deliberately obtuse.

If your SO beyond PUA, why copy and paste a "sh*t test" into the other thread here??? Your cover is blown.
I'm not going to respond to you anymore because you've blatantly blown this out of proportion because you simply did not agree... Instead of discussing rationally you chose the latter route.

And that response was a classic example. One of the things, those tests, I agree with when it comes to PUA. Simply because I have experienced it.

And I'm not hiding from anyone. I know who I am, do you?
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Old 07-26-2014, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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I'm not going to respond to you anymore because you've blatantly blown this out of proportion because you simply did not agree... Instead of discussing rationally you chose the latter route.

And that response was a classic example. One of the things, those tests, I agree with when it comes to PUA. Simply because I have experienced it.

And I'm not hiding from anyone. I know who I am, do you?
You're awfully new here to be rolling your eyes.

I get it. You didn't convert me, so you're shutting down.

It's cool. Got plans with my husband anyway.
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