Men and How They Handle Women After a Certain Age (dates, marriage)
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lots of ppl, both men and women of varying ages, have sour attitudes about dating, relationships and the opposite sex. all you have to do is hang out here on CDR to confirm that observation.
a while back i post a thread titled "jaded" that talked about that. these people apparently aren't getting their relationship needs met and are just blaming it on others. and i'm sure there is a reason why they are bitter, and it's also probably a safe bet they are significant contributing factor to their own unfortunate circumstances.
frankly, i think it is a good thing that these ppl are self-eliminating themselves from the dating and relationship market. sad thing is though you still end up inadvertently interacting with them where they congregate online venting and commiserating, like on relationship forums and blogs where they can hate and hide behind an anonymous persona.
Good post.
This guy just sounds like a crab ass, and he told you that, so you shouldn't be surprised. He also sounds like one of those arrogant people who brag about how "edgy" they are. I bet he cliff dives and tells everyone how he doesn't own a TV because it's "beneath him," right.
I entirely agree with everyone too. He seemed nice at first... but yeah, should have believed him. I thought that too - he either wants a relationship or wants pity because whenever he posts that junk on Writing.com, people would comment that he will change his mind someday, there is someone out there for him because he's such a great person. From the few times I signed onto my nom de plume Facebook, no one bothered commenting on those statuses (it's funny about different venues). I blocked on Writing.com. Later I will sign into that other Facebook and proceed to do the same.
And CarbonCountyLiving, yeah, he's one of those people. He's going to school for computer science and supposedly is learning how to build them. My laptop automatically upgraded from Windows 8 to 8.1 and my volume control isn't working. I asked him about that and he told me he couldn't help that I bought faulty equipment and didn't know how to install software. Well, my volume worked before and I didn't install the software myself, it was done automatically. I'm not sure what happened to the volume key; I asked him because I thought there was a way to fix it. Then he told me after I said my laptop didn't have a burner, "How can your laptop not have a burner? I paid $300 for mine and mine has a burner. You rich people don't know how to shop for a laptop."
I don't know. I think it how men treat women has a lot to do with maturity and nothing to do with age. A man who whines about how all women are the same or puts people down when they have problems is a very immature man, no matter his age.
OP: There are an increasing number of men that think exactly as this man does. If you don't believe me, watch some video's on YouTube with MGTOW in their title. (Men going their own way) These men have decided to swear off relationships because of their belief that women only want to use men, not love or respect them. They have basically sworn off marriage because of the high probability of divorce and men almost always being stuck with the check and having their children taken from them.
Part of this also stems from this attitude that women are strong and independent and "don't need a man". Hence the term, "woman up". That is to say, Women claimed to not need men, so then women shouldn't come to men to help with their problems.
I don't know. I think it how men treat women has a lot to do with maturity and nothing to do with age. A man who whines about how all women are the same or puts people down when they have problems is a very immature man, no matter his age.
^ I agree with that randomlikeme. It's funny, I apologized to my friends/mentors on Writing.com yesterday for the grumpy mood and they all said, "don't worry about it. We know you're frustrated and we all have off days. There's no need to apologize." I think it's just a maturity thing, especially when someone suggests homelessness to someone. Even if the situation was reversed, I would never suggest homelessness to someone - that's just nuts!
This all goes back to generalizing people (in this case women) again. This man is obviously bitter and jaded. He can say "all women are evil" which justifies his decision to not date or get in a relationship. As we all know, pointing the finger at someone and blaming them is SO much easier than taking responsibility for one's actions.
This all goes back to generalizing people (in this case women) again. This man is obviously bitter and jaded. He can say "all women are evil" which justifies his decision to not date or get in a relationship. As we all know, pointing the finger at someone and blaming them is SO much easier than taking responsibility for one's actions.
I agree. One of our mutual friends just said, "Well, X was burned badly in the past. He was living with someone and she just upped and left." I think it goes to what someone posted about MGTOW. Well, I had bad dating experiences; granted they didn't last long and it was never serious of considering living with them, but I don't group all men together. I don't want to date not because I think men are evil (even after things went down last November, I know the guy that did that to me isn't representative of all men - my guy friends actually were more supportive of me than my female friends!), but I'm not in a position to date and it's all me. I have some health issues I'm figuring out, getting a 2nd job, saving money and eventually moving. I want to focus on getting my life together first.
It's funny, when this guy and I started talking, the mutual friend said, "I hope he and you stay cool with one another. It will be awkward if y'all have a falling out. :\ " I told him I wasn't speaking to him again and he just said, "What he posted in his blog I'm sure wasn't directed towards you." I replied, "I know. But the way he talked down at me was enough to make that decision." I haven't brought it up again and I won't, I don't want to put the mutual friend in an awkward position.
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OP: There are an increasing number of men that think exactly as this man does. If you don't believe me, watch some video's on YouTube with MGTOW in their title. (Men going their own way) These men have decided to swear off relationships because of their belief that women only want to use men, not love or respect them. They have basically sworn off marriage because of the high probability of divorce and men almost always being stuck with the check and having their children taken from them.
Part of this also stems from this attitude that women are strong and independent and "don't need a man". Hence the term, "woman up". That is to say, Women claimed to not need men, so then women shouldn't come to men to help with their problems.
I feel sorry for these souls. Such a maladaptive way of thinking.
I feel sorry for these souls. Such a maladaptive way of thinking.
hehe, do some research and you my discover some new things related to the concepts of feminism, female entitlement, and hypergamy in contemporary relationships. admittedly, however, that group has a few nuts loose, but that equally applies to other gender related advocacy groups. there is some interesting readings if you google "red pill" but some of those topics are also ideologically driven by hidden motives or suspect personal inadequacies, again nothing you don't see in other groups, or here on CDR for that matter.
while interesting and at times enlightening, i don't necessarily buy into those theories. but what has become evident to me is the this protracted draught of economic prosperity has dramatically affected contemporary relationship, such as finding "ideal" mates, a re-evaluation of gender roles and expectations, questioning characteristics of masculinity and femininity, pre-marital rituals (dating v. hanging out), an even further delay in marriage pushing planned parenthood and fertility windows, out-of-wedlock parenting, a lack of opportunities to obtain the same quality of life and "american dream" as parents, financial conflicts within marriages, re-assessing the benefit and value of marriage altogether, the fairness of divorce and custody laws and it's role in wealth redistribution, reconsidering concepts of "together forever" loyalty&monogamy, accepting alternative lifestyles (porn, rising in male virginity/failure to launch, escorts/prostitution, sugaring, non-hetero coupling, etc). all of which we see slices of concern in the various CDR threads.
if this economy continues to stay flat for middle class america for and effectively creating the have's and have nots (1 percenters v. low wage workers and dependency on government benefits/welfare--again wealth redistribution), relationships will continue to be re-defined by capitalism, the market and commercial values --not christianity, socialism, feminism and other egalitarian movements.
the fundamental fact of the matter is that we all couple to seek a better quality of life in having a partner to share the burden of raising a family and our progeny. coupling involves a concept of selflessness, market values involves selfishness.... "what's in it for me?" and that question that is currently challenging and transforming our dating rituals and relationship patterns.
good luck, happy humping.
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