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I hope you are right! Otherwise it would be quite disturbing, as, according to most men who post on this forum, women in America should stay at home, shouldn't pursue a career and stay a virgin until marriage. That's so old fashioned and reactionary.
Sounds like a strawman argument. Please show me an example of someone here saying "women in America should stay at home, shouldn't pursue a career and stay a virgin until marriage."
Sounds like a strawman argument. Please show me an example of someone here saying "women in America should stay at home, shouldn't pursue a career and stay a virgin until marriage."
Perhaps you have not been on this forum long enough to read all the thread about how foreign women are far superior for dating and marrying opposed to western women because they aren't career driven, are more traditional and family oriented and submissive, know how to cook, clean and all around please a man, and they haven't slept around.
Perhaps you have not been on this forum long enough to read all the thread about how foreign women are far superior for dating and marrying opposed to western women because they aren't career driven, are more traditional and family oriented and submissive, know how to cook, clean and all around please a man, and they haven't slept around.
I dated a girl from Bangladesh. It's kind of true. Not that it didn't have its own pitfalls. But she was extremely loyal and I never had to worry about her "getting bored" and cheating on me with another guy either.
On the other hand, she was very jealous and controlling due to her perception of how loose American dating culture is. She assumed every lady wanted to sleep with me, so take that for what it's worth as to how others perceive American culture. She was also career-driven, having pursued her Master's in Software Engineering. However, she did, on multiple occasions, imply that she would expect her husband to fully take care of her. I wasn't too fond of that, because I don't see marriage as one person always taking care of the other. I see it more as a partnership where both people are working towards common goals.
This is mainly due to obesity, prevalence of tattoos, higher rates of severe acne and baldness, just to name a few reasons. It results in more competiton for the limited number of attractive people of both sexes.
All of this is an excuse, stop complaining and work on all of those outside flaws that you CAN change.
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(2) Busier, complicated, isolated world.
It's harder to meet people.
No?
The world is more connected than ever. You can meet someone at the grocery store, baseball game, football game, car wash, a diner, golfing, bowling, everywhere... Go outside and see for yourself, the opportunities are everywhere it's just that you aren't taking that step.
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(3) Feminism.
Women are(trying) outpacing men, but still want men who are more successful than they are.
I agree with this. But I did fix something for you in bold.
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(4) Hookup culture.
More people are not long-term relationship material due to STDs and the fact that guys eschew promiscuous women as relationship partners.
No..?
Hook up culture exists because of feminism "empowering" women. The media displays getting multiple suitors as "normal" and the club scene out partying all night as "normal" as well. I personally enjoy hook up culture. I agree with men trying to turn party wh*res into housewife's though.
And the chances of actually getting an STD is very low...
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(5) Messaging.
With text /Facebook/whatever messaging as a primary means of comunication, there is so much gamesmanship, feigning disinterest, misinterpretation, etc.
Don't get involved with social media, it's not a mans game to be played. Instead, dominant the outside world.
Perhaps you have not been on this forum long enough to read all the thread about how foreign women are far superior for dating and marrying opposed to western women because they aren't career driven, are more traditional and family oriented and submissive, know how to cook, clean and all around please a man, and they haven't slept around.
Yew, but that's not saying that domestic women should do that. Do whatever you want. It's a free country.
Yew, but that's not saying that domestic women should do that. Do whatever you want. It's a free country.
Yes I know, but you ask for examples of some posters saying "women in America should stay at home, shouldn't pursue a career and stay a virgin until marriage." While my post wasn't particular examples and Im not going to hunt them down for you there are a whole bunch of examples where someone said such a thing.
I dated a girl from Bangladesh. It's kind of true. Not that it didn't have its own pitfalls. But she was extremely loyal and I never had to worry about her "getting bored" and cheating on me with another guy either.
On the other hand, she was very jealous and controlling due to her perception of how loose American dating culture is. She assumed every lady wanted to sleep with me, so take that for what it's worth as to how others perceive American culture. She was also career-driven, having pursued her Master's in Software Engineering. However, she did, on multiple occasions, imply that she would expect her husband to fully take care of her. I wasn't too fond of that, because I don't see marriage as one person always taking care of the other. I see it more as a partnership where both people are working towards common goals.
I like how American men always set women from Russia, Asia or the Middle East as an example of loyality and respect. Believe me, I know so many people from these countries and heart so many stories.
Women are women. The fact that they grew up in a different culture doesn't necessarily make them more loyal and submissive. They just know better how to fool men into believing they are submissive. And IMO men, who want a submissive woman instead of a partner, do not deserve any better than being fooled.
I like how American men always set women from Russia, Asia or the Middle East as an example of loyality and respect. Believe me, I know so many people from these countries and heart so many stories.
Women are women. The fact that they grew up in a different culture doesn't necessarily make them more loyal and submissive. They just know better how to fool men into believing they are submissive. And IMO men, who want a submissive woman instead of a partner, do not deserve any better than being fooled.
I gave a specific example. This is not just some vast generalization based on hypotheticals that I laid out. The girl I was with was (and still kind of is) completely devoted to me. I don't know about the rest of them outside of what she told me.
Modern dating causes alcoholism and overeating? So do miserable marriages. So do abusive families that kids are raised in.
Eh.... Probably a combination of loneliness and hopelessness causes much of addictive behaviors. Not being able to find a special someone must be high-risk for that (higher than typical marriage). However, at least for men, marriage has a proven way of motivating healthy habits, meaning less marriage is bad for the physical health of society. (I guess committed non-marital relationships also benefit health.)
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NOW we finally get to your point! Good point. Dude, don't tell yourself you're a loser, and don't let anyone else tell you that. Here on this forum? People just plain get tired of people who ask for advice, but never take the advice given, and continue to whine. They also get tired of people who post to attack the opposite sex, and follow that either by whining or angry rants.
So, don't be one of those people, and you won't have the L-word flung at you here.
I don't particularly feel like a loser due to difficulties in finding someone I could love. It's hardly my fault. But many young guys likely feel like it is and that they're kicked for being down when complaining. I'm more personally annoyed at being unheard and mischaracterized, which I suspect is why men keep trying to 'prove' some points about dating. Men here get generalized just as much as women do. It's time for that to stop. It's true that some men complain too much or (less often) make ridiculous claims. Maybe some of them need to be escorted out, but the women who are quick to attack men for understandable sadness or anger should take a break, maybe even be forced to. Men deserve a place to talk about what's bothering them. Bottling it up is very bad. P.S. The advice men get here and elsewhere isn't that good, partly because many of the problems are at a societal level rather than individual.
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, but you ask for examples of some posters saying "women in America should stay at home, shouldn't pursue a career and stay a virgin until marriage." While my post wasn't particular examples and Im not going to hunt them down for you there are a whole bunch of examples where someone said such a thing.
