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Old 11-10-2014, 07:57 PM
 
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Ambition is a moot point there are only so many good paying jobs to go around and since there are more women than ever in good paying jobs that means there are less men with good paying jobs. Men used to hold most management jobs and most women never even applied for them. This is no longer the case and now there are women in decent paying blue collar jobs.

Example : Let's say we're at a corporate headquarters and there are 3 promotions up for grabs in the finance department. 6 single men apply for them and 6 single women apply for them. It is very possible that all 3 positions could be filled by women thus out there in the dating pool we have immediately added 3 more single women that make more money than 3 of there single male counterparts.

When I was single a few years ago we used to talk about this subject all the time on here. The days of the man always being the breadwinner are so long gone it's not even funny. Mostly due to how the workforce, the global economy, and the country has changed over the years. If you're a single woman you will be drastically reducing your dating pool if you have a good paying job but will only date someone that makes at least the same amount of money as you. Heck if men did that back in the day no one would have ever got married.
Great post! You see things where some others cannot. It's pretty easy to understand but some people cannot or will not acknowledge the impact of a man's income in the dating world.

Women will always marry 'down' financially. They have no choice. There are only so many man who have great paying jobs. It's either be single or be the breadwinner. Most of the times it's not their first choice though.
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Old 11-10-2014, 08:51 PM
 
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Some vocations are practically closed off to males (front desk reception, elementary school teacher, etc.).
...the HR department. haha

Whatever. A man shouldn't want a girly job anyway.
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Old 11-10-2014, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Do you think that I was born with this outlook or that I developed it after dating multiple women?
You definitely developed it. The question is, if the two common variables in all of your dating experiences are you and all of womankind, which of those two things do you think you're more likely to have success in changing in order to have different experiences?
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Old 11-10-2014, 10:20 PM
 
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...the HR department. haha

Whatever. A man shouldn't want a girly job anyway.
Many of these "pink collar" jobs pay well. And many of these white collar jobs prefer qualified women, if they can find them.
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Old 11-10-2014, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Many of these "pink collar" jobs pay well.
Nursing is one that certainly does, which is why more and more men are going into it. Elementary teacher (in most places, anyway) and secretary, not so much.
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Old 11-10-2014, 11:57 PM
 
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...the HR department. haha

Whatever. A man shouldn't want a girly job anyway.
You need to grow up bro. You wouldn't be saying this type of crap if you get laid off, have an eviction notice nailed to your door and your kids are going hungry.
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Old 11-11-2014, 08:34 AM
 
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You're exactly right.

Women want a guy who is impressive to them because of his standing in the social pecking order. Since the women of my generation are going to be higher than the men on the social pecking order (in large part because of Affirmative Action), that makes for fewer guys who they want.
In reality, men and women want a partner that is impressive. Some women will have a harder time finding a man that earns a higher income than she does. It makes for women being able to be more selective and not having to settle because they NEED financial support to survive.


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Not explicit AA. I should not have capitalized it.

The fact is that being a woman is an advantage in getting a job. Both males and females prefer to hire females. The only exception is when female hiring managers discriminate against pretty female applicants. In all other instances it is a substantial advantage to be a female applicant. Some vocations are practically closed off to males (front desk reception, elementary school teacher, etc.).
Reality check. Affirmative actions includes minorities (racial, cultural, religious), those with handicaps and women; AA applies to federal and state employers and those accepting federal and state monies; AA has been on the decline since the 80's.

Tell that shyt to women who have struggled in male dominated fields. We are just now seeing these tides turn. The reason you don't see many men in reception and low level education fields is because they are low pay jobs. And this little gem.
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...the HR department. haha

Whatever. A man shouldn't want a girly job anyway.
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Women will always marry 'down' financially. They have no choice. There are only so many man who have great paying jobs. It's either be single or be the breadwinner. Most of the times it's not their first choice though.
And there are only so many women who have great paying jobs. Generally people marry those on similar social and economic levels. So we will just seem more women in the workforce. Perhaps more men being stay at home parent. Only on the fringes will we see women having to make a choice to either remain single or support a man.
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Old 11-11-2014, 12:46 PM
 
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Nursing is one that certainly does, which is why more and more men are going into it. Elementary teacher (in most places, anyway) and secretary, not so much.

Yep. I have a very good male friend who's a nurse in San Francisco, and he makes a 6-figure income.

For a few years prior to moving to SF, he was a travelling nurse who worked all over the country on temporary assignments, some lasting weeks, some months. The money he made on many/most of those assignments was absolutely incredible. Mind boggling, really. He made significantly more money than my ex who has 2 STEM master's degrees and an MBA and has a real "manly" job.
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