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Old 11-01-2014, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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What is sounds like is normal human behavior. If you think this is "sociopathic" you yourself have a lot of growing up to do.
sociopath
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noun, Psychiatry.
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a person with a psychopathic personality whose behavior is antisocial, often criminal, and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.

Actually - this is pretty much exactly sociopathic behavior.

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Nobody (well, few people) would have "bought" that gay marriage was a good idea fifty years ago. The popularity of an idea is not a good indicator of whether it has validity or not.
Gay marriage is about love between 2 people. You are talking about lying and cheating. There is no valid comparison here.
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Old 11-01-2014, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Way up high
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My ex
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Old 11-01-2014, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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Can't agree with someone who thinks that THEY deserve a monogamous relationship but their "partner" doesn't - of course, what they don't know won't hurt them...cuz he's gonna use a condom EVERY SINGLE TIME....haha
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Old 11-01-2014, 12:34 PM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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What you--and everyone else that argues this--doesn't seem to understand is that my argument DOES take the other person into account. What you're proposing doesn't, IMO, work out very often. If it does, then why doesn't anyone here put their money where their mouth is and say they'd be okay with it??

And empathy works both ways. It's not showing empathy for the OP to tell him to do something which will effectively be a nonstarter.
I am. Find someone likeminded, and don't be a lying cheater. It's not easy.
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Old 11-01-2014, 01:56 PM
 
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sociopath
[soh-see-uh-path, soh-shee-] Spell Syllables
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noun, Psychiatry.
1.
a person with a psychopathic personality whose behavior is antisocial, often criminal, and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.

Actually - this is pretty much exactly sociopathic behavior.



Gay marriage is about love between 2 people. You are talking about lying and cheating. There is no valid comparison here.
You completely miss the point. First of all, I don't see how saying being honest about wanting to have other people is not likely to work well is "antisocial" or "lacking in moral responsibility." On the contrary, I find the unwillingness of those here to even address whether what I'm saying is true to be cowardly, and itself lacking in responsibility.

And regarding gay marriage, my whole point was that whether most people accept an idea is irrelevant to whether it is right or not. 50 years ago, most people definitely wouldn't have thought gay marriage was about "love between two people." If there was a C-D board then, whoever suggested it would have been answered by one poster after another talking about how supposedly "unnatural" homosexuality is and how God says marriage is only about one man and one woman. Heck, there are enough people even today that spout that nonsense.
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Old 11-01-2014, 01:57 PM
 
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I am. Find someone likeminded, and don't be a lying cheater. It's not easy.
"likeminded" shows the problem with your thinking. It's not a matter of the mind, it's a matter of feelings. Most people are far too jealous to accept what the OP is saying. Framing it as a matter of honesty is a means to claim the moral high ground, because it's very hard to do that if you say "I don't like this because I'm jealous."
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Old 11-01-2014, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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You completely miss the point. First of all, I don't see how saying being honest about wanting to have other people is not likely to work well is "antisocial" or "lacking in moral responsibility." On the contrary, I find the unwillingness of those here to even address whether what I'm saying is true to be cowardly, and itself lacking in responsibility.

And regarding gay marriage, my whole point was that whether most people accept an idea is irrelevant to whether it is right or not. 50 years ago, most people definitely wouldn't have thought gay marriage was about "love between two people." If there was a C-D board then, whoever suggested it would have been answered by one poster after another talking about how supposedly "unnatural" homosexuality is and how God says marriage is only about one man and one woman. Heck, there are enough people even today that spout that nonsense.
Like I said, nobody is buying what you are selling.

Gay marriage is about love. Love is good for society. Lying and cheating are not good for society. Sorry - having no moral values is never going to be seen as a good thing.

And you are not promoting being honest about wanting other people. You are promoting lying and cheating. As you always do. And as always, nobody agrees with you. Please just let it go.
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Old 11-01-2014, 02:03 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Like I said, nobody is buying what you are selling.

Gay marriage is about love. Love is good for society. Lying and cheating are not good for society. Sorry - having no moral values is never going to be seen as a good thing.

And you are not promoting being honest about wanting other people. You are promoting lying and cheating. As you always do. And as always, nobody agrees with you. Please just let it go.
LOL... got another poster exclaiming that the sky is green and expecting the masses to buy it... LOL... there are actually a few posters on here that peddle nonsense wrapped in faux pseudo intellectual arguments.
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Old 11-01-2014, 02:09 PM
 
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Like I said, nobody is buying what you are selling.
Like I said, it doesn't matter. You and others are simply spouting the same old song--how exactly is lying necessarily a bad thing anyway? And "cheating" is breaking an agreement--people break all kinds of agreements all the time without being condemned for it.

I have voiced my opinion in response to the OP, not to argue with a bunch of closed-minded people who will not be convinced anyway.
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Old 11-01-2014, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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Like I said, it doesn't matter. You and others are simply spouting the same old song--how exactly is lying necessarily a bad thing anyway? And "cheating" is breaking an agreement--people break all kinds of agreements all the time without being condemned for it.

I have voiced my opinion in response to the OP, not to argue with a bunch of closed-minded people who will not be convinced anyway.
If you think not lying and not cheating is closed minded - then I am happy to be closed minded. By the way - I had an open relationship with one of my boyfriends for awhile. We were honest about it and agreed to it. But I guess since I didn't just cheat on him and lie about it - I'm closed minded. That's fine with me!
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