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Old 11-16-2014, 02:52 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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The last phone conversation went well. We were planning our next date. I did text her yesterday because it was her birthday. Wished her happy birthday and responded right away.

So it's clear that something happened between yesterday and today to make her not interested, likely a new guy.

How am I supposed to "improve" when women just keep lying to me and treating me like crap?

Well, I live in the middle of nowhere right now and I'm stuck here for the next year. I made a promise to myself that if this didn't work out with this girl, I would stop seriously pursuing women and focus on the gym, therapy, and my next career move.

Honestly, I may never date again because I'm so fed up with this nonsense. Women just have too many options these days and a below average to average looking man just can't match up.
Why are you getting so worked up over a woman you don't even like, and who didn't like you? And how is not responding within a few hours "treating you like crap"?? These are not normal thinking processes. Not at all.

Forget about this woman, and follow through with your self-care plan. You need to build a stable foundation before you can even begin to cope with dating. The bolded is a very sensible and healthy plan.
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Old 11-16-2014, 02:59 PM
 
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Here's a good example of a woman lying:

I went on a date that was somewhat awkward for both of us. I wasn't even going to get back to this woman but our mutual friend said that she was willing to go out on another date. I decided to give it a chance even though there were some things that caused me to hesitate.

We talked on the phone a couple of times and texted. I texted her today to talk to her on the phone and nothing.

She's supposedly looking for marriage and a long-term commitment. What likely happened? She was probably talking to multiple men and a better option presented itself. So she lied to me, basically. Same old same old.
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Originally Posted by Cristo666 View Post
The last phone conversation went well. We were planning our next date. I did text her yesterday because it was her birthday. Wished her happy birthday and responded right away.

So it's clear that something happened between yesterday and today to make her not interested, likely a new guy.

How am I supposed to "improve" when women just keep lying to me and treating me like crap?

Well, I live in the middle of nowhere right now and I'm stuck here for the next year. I made a promise to myself that if this didn't work out with this girl, I would stop seriously pursuing women and focus on the gym, therapy, and my next career move.

Honestly, I may never date again because I'm so fed up with this nonsense. Women just have too many options these days and a below average to average looking man just can't match up.
you keep saying this women is lying to you, but i dont see any evidence of it, using your own words. now if you have proof of her lying, then why are you even considering going out with her again? personally if i find out a woman is lying to me, i am done with them for anything more than them being an acquaintance.
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Old 11-16-2014, 02:59 PM
 
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Why are you getting so worked up over a woman you don't even like, and who didn't like you? And how is not responding within a few hours "treating you like crap"?? These are not normal thinking processes. Not at all.
I was willing to give her an opportunity since she talked a good game. I felt that our last phone conversation went better than the previous one and the date. Guess I was wrong though lol.

This brings back memories of women that I was dating/talking to that changed their habits towards me and were sleeping with other men.

I now feel that she was leading me on. Hence, the treating me like crap declaration. Damn, it's crazy that everything is so easy for me (making money, working out, developing skills), but dating seems absolutely impossible. And every dating experience I have makes it seem even worse.
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Old 11-16-2014, 03:01 PM
 
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you keep saying this women is lying to you, but i dont see any evidence of it, using your own words. now if you have proof of her lying, then why are you even considering going out with her again? personally if i find out a woman is lying to me, i am done with them for anything more than them being an acquaintance.
Yeah, I'm done with this particular woman. I was just hoping that maybe this one wouldn't be like all of the rest, since she is a bit older, we are in similar career fields, and she talks a good game (claims to have good values, etc).

I always seem to hope for this, but end up disappointed.

And, as I said, I don't have many dating options to begin with because I live in the middle of nowhere and am not physically attractive.
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Old 11-16-2014, 03:02 PM
 
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Yeah, I'm done with this particular woman. I was just hoping that maybe this one wouldn't be like all of the rest, since she is a bit older, we are in similar career fields, and she talks a good game (claims to have good values, etc).

I always seem to hope for this, but end up disappointed.

And, as I said, I don't have many dating options to begin with because I live in the middle of nowhere and am not physically attractive.
i think you have a lot of issues that need to be dealt with before you go back out dating anyone.
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Old 11-16-2014, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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I was willing to give her an opportunity since she talked a good game. I felt that our last phone conversation went better than the previous one and the date. Guess I was wrong though lol.

This brings back memories of women that I was dating/talking to that changed their habits towards me and were sleeping with other men.

I now feel that she was leading me on. Hence, the treating me like crap declaration. Damn, it's crazy that everything is so easy for me (making money, working out, developing skills), but dating seems absolutely impossible. And every dating experience I have makes it seem even worse.
The problem isn't her - it's you. Realize that, work on yourself, and then get back into the dating world when you are ready.
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Old 11-16-2014, 03:11 PM
 
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The last phone conversation went well. We were planning our next date. I did text her yesterday because it was her birthday. Wished her happy birthday and responded right away.

So it's clear that something happened between yesterday and today to make her not interested, likely a new guy.

How am I supposed to "improve" when women just keep lying to me and treating me like crap?

Well, I live in the middle of nowhere right now and I'm stuck here for the next year. I made a promise to myself that if this didn't work out with this girl, I would stop seriously pursuing women and focus on the gym, therapy, and my next career move.

Honestly, I may never date again because I'm so fed up with this nonsense. Women just have too many options these days and a below average to average looking man just can't match up.
Seriously? Dude, you are off the rails. You have no business even talking to women, much less dating them. I expect that most any woman, after a few conversations with you, would be able to see what a nut she was dealing with, and I would be very surprised if she did anything other than blow you off.
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Old 11-16-2014, 03:15 PM
 
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Seriously? Dude, you are off the rails. You have no business even talking to women, much less dating them. I expect that most any woman, after a few conversations with you, would be able to see what a nut she was dealing with, and I would be very surprised if she did anything other than blow you off.
Nailed it.

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Old 11-16-2014, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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I texted my husband at 2:55pm. He hasn't texted me back yet. He obviously has another family somewhere that he has been keeping from me.
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Old 11-16-2014, 03:42 PM
 
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I texted my husband at 2:55pm. He hasn't texted me back yet. He obviously has another family somewhere that he has been keeping from me.
no it isnt another family, its his boyfriend, he told me.
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