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Lots of guys have had sex, but still I wouldn't call them men
1. Lie to get women to sleep with them
2. Not honest about their intentions, because they just want what they want
3. Have a baby mama, or a few out there with kids they don't see, or even try to be amicable about
4. Drug-heads + Drunks
5. Irresponsible.
etc. A guy could be all these things. Having had sex makes him no more, or closer to, a man that a pig is.
I am starting to see a conspiracy with the whining virgin threads. Do people have no bigger issues in life? Because if life is perfect, with only no sex being the horrid, then they're lucky. Many have bigger issues.
I'm almost 30 and still a virgin. Because of this I don't really consider myself a man. Does a guy really need to have sexual experience before he can become a real man and get a relationship?
Join a gym and start lifting weights son... lose the paunch and grow into a man.
....IMO, having sexual experiences is critical for a man to be a complete individual. Sorry, but a man's penis isn't only for urinating, it has a important role to play in a male's development. It's not like a tail, it's there for a purpose. I am not saying it makes you a man, but it makes you a complete man. Until you are able to engage someone in a fashion that opens the door to having a sexual relationship, you will always be socially crippled. You will always wonder what it's like to do it, you will always be in the minority of those around you.
BTW, when I am talking about having sex, engaging in a sexual relationship, I do not mean engaging in a transaction, where you spend your paycheck on an escort.
And this is the kind of attitude that CAUSES so much grief....
No matter how liberated or how much forward people move, there is always some sort of back fire. You may think this helps....but it really doesn't.
Someone has to be one arrogant individual to think how they think things should go is the way things are suppose to go for everyone.
Join a gym and start lifting weights son... lose the paunch and grow into a man.
Men with bigger paunches had sex before. That's not the issues. It's either his desire isn't there or his confidence isn't there. Either way, that would be more helpful than lifting weights.
Someone needs to slap them in the face and wake their butts up.....please don't sacrifice yourself just to shut them up.....when it comes down to it, until you have a relationship that results in a sexual encounter, that relationship is juvenile. I'm just trying to be real. A man having a non sexual relationship with a woman, is being a friend....that does only so much in teaching him how to properly interact with a female.
No it's unacceptable for a male in his mid twenties to be a virgin, he is setting himself up for a life of either a narcissist because he is bitter, or a life of loneliness, which will get harder and harder to escape the older he gets....it's the truth, sorry to be so harsh.
I also laugh at the guy who is 25 and a virgin, but refuses to "date down" lol, that's a 30 year old virgin in the makings. sad but true.
I understand the sentiment being expressed in the OP. I think it can be hard to feel like a true adult when you are sexually inexperienced and the world places so much emphasis on sex.
And this is the kind of attitude that CAUSES so much grief....
No matter how liberated or how much forward people move, there is always some sort of back fire. You may think this helps....but it really doesn't.
Someone has to be one arrogant individual to think how they think things should go is the way things are suppose to go for everyone.
No, things aren't going to go this way for everyone, but the sooner they figure out that it's actually a problem and stunts their overall development, the sooner they can work on it. It's when people coddle them, and say it's ok, to take your time....then you have them go another 5 years, then another, next thing you know, it's 35 years old, and now what did the "kind" approach do for them.
Unfortunately in today's society, sex plays an important role. The same as money has it's role. If you want to live where you are protected by those influences, you can live in the bush, and make those choices. However, if you live in this society, it's part of life, and the sooner you realize this, the sooner you can do something about it.
No, things aren't going to go this way for everyone, but the sooner they figure out that it's actually a problem and stunts their overall development, the sooner they can work on it. It's when people coddle them, and say it's ok, to take your time....then you have them go another 5 years, then another, next thing you know, it's 35 years old, and now what did the "kind" approach do for them.
Unfortunately in today's society, sex plays an important role. The same as money has it's role. If you want to live where you are protected by those influences, you can live in the bush, and make those choices. However, if you live in this society, it's part of life, and the sooner you realize this, the sooner you can do something about it.
Or you could just [bleep] mind your own business. That works too.
A lot of folks don't have time to conform to what society says is right. IMO that's an unwise way to live. It's when people stop caring is when they will really be free and happy.
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When I was 33, I had me a virgin man of 26. He had extreme social anxiety, was quite attractive and I'm sure had more than a few women make passes at him. Our co-workers sort of set it up so that he and I were at the company ski condo for a weekend and the others who were supposed to be there somehow managed not to go. It took me a little while to realize they set it up!
Anyway, I think the time passing with him untouched was assuming a larger meaning than it needed to. Our first time was absurd- worse than any high school fumble. Almost nothing actually happened. The second time a few weeks later was like a new person, not experienced but absolutely doing things pretty well! A while later, he started a relationship with a woman who eventually became his wife, and I took pretty much took credit for helping him out (hey, it wasn't exactly heavy lifting. He was a friend and an attractive one at that).
Gary, wherever you are, yes, this is me!
In the days of personals in the newspaper, I thought guys lied and said they were virgins to get curious women to take them on. I hear it worked pretty well.
Unless you go around wearing a sign that says "I'm a virgin," the whole world doesn't know your sexual status.
No, but it can affect the way virgins see themselves.
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sad but true.
