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Yeah, whenever I read posts from men who say they want to go to Europe or Australia to find women who are more old-fashioned than American woman, I always get a good laugh.
I've seen them too. Women saying there are better men south or men saying latina and Asian women treat their man better than American women.
Chivalry seems like a nice gesture and politeness, I agree, but it seems rather sexist that it only focuses on men doing it for women. I see it somewhat comparable to women being totally expected to be the ones who cook and clean simply because they are women while the guy watches TV and expects her to fetch some beers. We know how women would react to that.
I don't see why chivalry can't be carried out by both men and women to EVERYBODY regardless of economic status, gender, age, etc.
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Originally Posted by timberline742
I do think the female equivalents of chivalry have all bur disappeared. The return sentiments of a home cooked meal, baked goods, something knit, the mysterious "I have a pair of tickets to ___, would you escort me" are really pretty much gone. I do get cooked for from time to time, but its breakfast the morning after (and yes, I appreciate it), but its more an afterthought.
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Originally Posted by The Dissenter
That is my main hostility with chivalry. Men are expected to do everything and women ain't expected to do .
It seems like it but while I lived in Asia I saw women a bit differen to what I saw when I studied in the USA. For example, opening the door of the car and see how she pushes the door open from the inside for me. Can a door be opened with a push of a button? You bet. Can I open my door the same way? Of course. But its just us giving each other a nice gesture, that's all. I pull the chair for her to sit before we have dinner. When dinner arrives to the table she pours the drink on my glass and her's or something like that. It's just nice kind gestures going back and forth naturally.
Sure, not many guys are gentlemen out there but believe it or not there are not many ladies out there either. Then again, not every single couple out there goes by the same rules and traditions and it doesn't mean they are not happy together. For me and my lady, chivalry goes both ways and we are happy that way .
I have more of a problem with the men who like sick a&$ little puppy dogs do every thing on that list like the desperate thirsty fools they probably are. I have no issue being nice to a woman to a reasonable point but please believe I want some appreciation and respect for it or else I won't even bother expending the effort.
How about some mini-cheese cakes, or cookies...or wine? Come on down Diss! Sounds like you need a little TLC
Yeah, whenever I read posts from men who say they want to go to Europe or Australia to find women who are more old-fashioned than American woman, I always get a good laugh.
It's interesting that some men are glad chivalry is dying, but when you suggest to some of those same men that they move to Scandinavia, where chivalry has long been dead and buried, they rant about feminism run amok. How do they think chivalry got shot through and buried in those countries, in the first place?
Somebody's confused.
This is what I did.
I LOVE feminism, because it means everything is a lot more relaxed. If you want to do something nice for someone, you do it because you're a good person (or you can afford to), not because your gender is supposed to treat their gender a certain way.
There ain't nothing about the Diss that is tender, loving, or would care.
Well then, there ya go. I didn't say you have it, I said you need it
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