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Old 12-25-2014, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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Actually it doesn't say that since it was about percentages.

It says a smaller set of men ever receive messages than the population of women that receive messages, irrespective of the volume. That's a separate issue.
I think this goes back to the belief that if most women think that Brad Pitt is attractive - that this means that women only find men like Brad Pitt attractive. When, in reality, just because most women find Brad Pitt attractive - it doesn't mean that they don't also find men like Adam Sandler, Ben Stiller, Benedict Cumberpatch, etc. attractive. Having diverse taste doesn't mean that you don't find extremely attractive people attractive. Many men on here seem to think that in order for women not to be shallow or not to all have the same taste in men - that women need to think attractive men are unattractive.

So - in regards to women messaging a small percentage of men - I would say that women, for the most part, probably don't message as often. So in order for them to message someone, they would have to be extremely attractive. And extremely attractive men are probably considered attractive by most women - but that doesn't mean that they are the ONLY men that they find attractive.
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Old 12-25-2014, 05:01 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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So - in regards to women messaging a small percentage of men - I would say that women, for the most part, probably don't message as often. So in order for them to message someone, they would have to be extremely attractive. And extremely attractive men are probably considered attractive by most women - but that doesn't mean that they are the ONLY men that they find attractive.

Ok, but there is data out there that, again, OKC has shown and has posted here, that show women do find a smaller percentage of men "attractive" than men find women "attractive", by a significant margin.

Now that's just physical attractiveness, which is why I used the quotes.

Personally, I hate how physically good looking and attractive are so often tossed around interchangeably. They're not the same thing at all. I can look at a picture and tell if someone is good looking. I would have no idea if I found them attractive until we met, talked, and I started to get to know someone. Lots of good looking people are unattractive, and there are people that don't fit the objective "good looking" criteria that are incredibly attractive.

Just a pet peeve of mine (I have many).
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Old 12-25-2014, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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Ok, but there is data out there that, again, OKC has shown and has posted here, that show women do find a smaller percentage of men "attractive" than men find women "attractive", by a significant margin.

Now that's just physical attractiveness, which is why I used the quotes.

Personally, I hate how physically good looking and attractive are so often tossed around interchangeably. They're not the same thing at all. I can look at a picture and tell if someone is good looking. I would have no idea if I found them attractive until we met, talked, and I started to get to know someone. Lots of good looking people are unattractive, and there are people that don't fit the objective "good looking" criteria that are incredibly attractive.

Just a pet peeve of mine (I have many).
I agree with you. For instance, if you had me looking at a bunch of pictures, I could tell you which guys I found attractive - but I would have no attraction to them. And if I met the "attractive" ones in person - there is no guarantee that I would be attracted to them or that I would want to date them. The guys that I've actually dated have been extremely diverse looks wise - and if you had showed me pictures of them before I met them, I probably wouldn't have found a lot of them to be very attractive. However, the reason that I dated them was because I was VERY attracted to them in person.
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Old 12-25-2014, 05:32 PM
 
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It's so funny when I read the answers on these "authorities" who barely even have the sack to ask a woman on a date. Some of the answers I've read have come from very narrow minded, and limited in experienced men. Only a guy who has been with <5, would have these types of views. Maybe instead of giving the gospel on what women think/do, you should just listen, and learn.
I'm not so sure this is a very convincing argument. Are you essentially saying there is an 'experience' requirement for someone to make a factual observation? If so, frankly, that is rather ridiculous.

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How do you know more women cheat then men do? Because you've been cheated on,. and never cheated? Well your sss, isn't the real picture. Why do you always quote studies, lets hear about real life experiences, because that's the truth, not some SSS study, which is biased in order to prove a person's essay.
I take it then that anecdotes and personal stories carry more weight to you than science and factual data?
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Old 12-25-2014, 05:57 PM
 
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Why would you think that? I simply can't wrap my head around someone choosing to believe this. I've rarely been attracted to someone right away. I have to get to know someone before I'm attracted to them. This has nothing to do with thinking I can't do any better looks-wise. A witty, sexy sense of humor is not something that can be detected by just looking at a person. There is so much more to a person that just their outer shell. The more you get to know a person, the more attraction can grow. To blame it on lack of options is ridiculous.

You are hurting yourself. Negativity is toxic to happiness.
I am happy (I just happen to be more bored today than usual). I also don't feel that I'm being negative. I am just being realistic.

I believe that there a lot of subconscious mechanisms going on that others seem to not be able to appreciate. So we'll just have to agree to disagree.
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Old 12-25-2014, 05:58 PM
 
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Don't men do the same thing though? Not every man can get his ideal woman.
Yes they do. I never said that they didn't. I just think that since women are pickier overall, they find less men attractive and, therefore, do this more often.
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Old 12-25-2014, 06:10 PM
 
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Yes they do. I never said that they didn't. I just think that since women are pickier overall, they find less men attractive and, therefore, do this more often.
Ok. But if a woman isn't naturally attracted to certain men, that isn't her fault. It wouldn't make sense for women to choose to ONLY be attracted to a very small percentage of men. If it were a choice, we would choose what was widely available so that our odds would be better.
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Old 12-25-2014, 06:12 PM
 
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Ok. But if a woman isn't naturally attracted to certain men, that isn't her fault. It wouldn't make sense for women to choose to ONLY be attracted to a very small percentage of men. If it were a choice, we would choose what was widely available so that our odds would be better.
I never said that it's her fault.

It is what it is. But women shouldn't complain about how difficult it is to find good guys when they're all chasing the same ones.
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Old 12-25-2014, 06:13 PM
 
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In your experience, do you agree or disagree with the above? Do you agree that men can find a large number of diverse and completely different looking women to be attractive, while women seem to be rather homogenous in their taste and what they find attractive?

Why or why not?
Agree, I can find lots of different types very attractive in terms of ethnicity and facial features. That said, there is a certain type of body that I find VERY attractive and as a younger person always gravitated towards. Now as a somewhat older person, it doesn't seem to matter as much.
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Old 12-25-2014, 06:17 PM
 
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I never said that it's her fault.

It is what it is. But women shouldn't complain about how difficult it is to find good guys when they're all chasing the same ones.
Well, it's a valid complaint if the good guys that they want are scarce.
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