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Old 12-25-2014, 04:42 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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There's truth to this. Also, I don't know why anyone would assume that all the women on OLD are messaging the same few guys.

OKC had years ago published some data showing how widely women were messaged, but it was a tiny number of the men that were messaged, percentage wise.
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Old 12-25-2014, 04:42 PM
 
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I know. I really can't understand it. I can't imagine looking at the world around me and deciding to believe that every woman that is with a man that isn't a clone of a supermodel must have settled and isn't really attracted to her husband. I can't imagine decided to believe any of this stuff. And the only person that they are hurting is themselves. You carry around that much negativity and it rubs off on your life.
I can't imagine thinking that either. I don't think that and that's not what I said.

What I said is that these men grow on the women because these women realize, either consciously or subconsciously, that they can't do any better looks-wise. So they learn to love what they can get.

Also, I'm not hurting myself. I'm able to date pretty easily when I put effort in. But I don't find most women to be of the quality that I'm looking for (and I'm looking for qualities other than looks, such as kindness, warmth, generosity, etc).
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Old 12-25-2014, 04:42 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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I don't blame women, personally. I blame society. Our society simply encourages entitlement among women and does not produce as many marriage-minded, quality women that will make good mothers.

But this is a topic for another thread...
Just because you're not able to find them, doesn't mean society isn't producing them, or is producing less of them than before. There are tons of women out there who are marriage-minded and would make good mothers. They're just not interested in you.

Once you resolve your depression and other issues, dating will get easier for you.
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Old 12-25-2014, 04:43 PM
 
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OKC had years ago published some data showing how widely women were messaged, but it was a tiny number of the men that were messaged, percentage wise.


Thus, proving my point.
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Old 12-25-2014, 04:45 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Thus, proving my point.
Your point that most women don't message men, it's the men who message women? That's all that proves.
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Old 12-25-2014, 04:45 PM
 
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Just because you're not able to find them, doesn't mean society isn't producing them, or is producing less of them than before. There are tons of women out there who are marriage-minded and would make good mothers. They're just not interested in you.

Once you resolve your depression and other issues, dating will get easier for you.
Again, just because we disagree does not mean that I'm unsuccessful in dating.

Just of curiosity, you critique others a lot, but are you yourself successful in dating?

Anyway, I'm able to date the vast majority of women that I'm interested in. However, they are usually not what I'm looking for once I get to know them. Maybe when I move to a better area with more professionals, this will change. Maybe not.

Don't bring my issues into this argument. They are actually mostly resolved now and I am feeling better than ever.
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Old 12-25-2014, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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I can't imagine thinking that either. I don't think that and that's not what I said.

What I said is that these men grow on the women because these women realize, either consciously or subconsciously, that they can't do any better looks-wise. So they learn to love what they can get.

Also, I'm not hurting myself. I'm able to date pretty easily when I put effort in. But I don't find most women to be of the quality that I'm looking for (and I'm looking for qualities other than looks, such as kindness, warmth, generosity, etc).
Why would you think that? I simply can't wrap my head around someone choosing to believe this. I've rarely been attracted to someone right away. I have to get to know someone before I'm attracted to them. This has nothing to do with thinking I can't do any better looks-wise. A witty, sexy sense of humor is not something that can be detected by just looking at a person. There is so much more to a person that just their outer shell. The more you get to know a person, the more attraction can grow. To blame it on lack of options is ridiculous.

You are hurting yourself. Negativity is toxic to happiness.
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Old 12-25-2014, 04:48 PM
 
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people generally dont have a broad diverse taste in who they find attractive and whatnot

you can do a comparison of all the people you ran thru and you will notice some obvious similarities whether its facial features, build, etc
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Old 12-25-2014, 04:49 PM
 
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What I said is that these men grow on the women because these women realize, either consciously or subconsciously, that they can't do any better looks-wise. So they learn to love what they can get.
Don't men do the same thing though? Not every man can get his ideal woman.
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Old 12-25-2014, 04:50 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Your point that most women don't message men, it's the men who message women? That's all that proves.

Actually it doesn't say that since it was about percentages.

It says a smaller set of men ever receive messages than the population of women that receive messages, irrespective of the volume. That's a separate issue.


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people generally dont have a broad diverse taste in who they find attractive and whatnot

you can do a comparison of all the people you ran thru and you will notice some obvious similarities whether its facial features, build, etc
True, but lots of times the people I find attractive in real life has nothing to do with my ideal. I just meet them, make a connection, and find them incredibly attractive. Generalities and ideals are fair to have, but real life throws lots of curve balls and chemistry just happens.
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