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View Poll Results: Mother/wife ambitions less attractive than hyper career ambitions?
Yes 24 29.63%
No 57 70.37%
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Old 03-18-2015, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY
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If we are married, or living together, there will be two incomes, doesn't matter if one of us has Don Trump money, or one of us is selling dime bags, eff all that nonsense.

 
Old 03-18-2015, 04:10 PM
 
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If we are married, or living together, there will be two incomes, doesn't matter if one of us has Don Trump money, or one of us is selling dime bags, eff all that nonsense.
Because little kids don't deserve a parent in the home to lovingly raise them??

Eff kids.
 
Old 03-18-2015, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Because little kids don't deserve a parent in the home to lovingly raise them??

Eff kids.
^^^^^ That is the most brilliant post.
 
Old 03-18-2015, 08:01 PM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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Because little kids don't deserve a parent in the home to lovingly raise them??

Eff kids.
It's tough to juggle all that shuttling kids around while selling dime bags. Have some compassion.
 
Old 03-19-2015, 05:46 AM
 
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It's tough to juggle all that shuttling kids around while selling dime bags. Have some compassion.
That's true.

It's really annoying how people act like one parent staying at home is about someone not working instead of it being about the huge benefits to young children.

I work full-time now but I stayed with my daughter the first three years. I took on that economical risk and career setback because it was what was best for her.

Again, I would kill for a spouse in the home. Someone to take care of business and organizing the household so I can focus on work and not have to worry about who's gonna pick up the kids or watch and feed the kids or take them to appointments/school/activities. Someone to clean my house and have food ready when I get home. Someone to LOVE my kids in their most vulnerable ages rather than a cold daycare environment, to teach them and engage with them.
 
Old 03-19-2015, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Middle America
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Yep. I worked in early childhood long enough to strongly feel that if it's at all possible for a parent to be the primary caregiver during waking hours in the pre-K years, it's vastly preferable. Not everyone can swing it, and I get that. But if I can, hell, yes, it's the choice I'm making.

I worked in a really great center, as well, and wouldn't describe the environment as cold. But the fact remains that in a room with 8 infants, 12 1-year olds, 14 2-year olds, or 24 3- and 4- year olds (the legislated capacities, and we always had a waitlist and full classrooms), the opportunities for forming adequate caregiver bonds are not sufficient. Even with the best caregivers in the world, their attention is split many ways. If you can work out a lower ratio childcare setting, awesome, but I'd still much prefer to spend that time with my own kid, if at all possible. And if it IS possible, why would I not take advantage of that?
 
Old 03-19-2015, 07:00 AM
 
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Yep. I worked in early childhood long enough to strongly feel that if it's at all possible for a parent to be the primary caregiver during waking hours in the pre-K years, it's vastly preferable. Not everyone can swing it, and I get that. But if I can, hell, yes, it's the choice I'm making.

I worked in a really great center, as well, and wouldn't describe the environment as cold. But the fact remains that in a room with 8 infants, 12 1-year olds, 14 2-year olds, or 24 3- and 4- year olds (the legislated capacities, and we always had a waitlist and full classrooms), the opportunities for forming adequate caregiver bonds are not sufficient. Even with the best caregivers in the world, their attention is split many ways. If you can work out a lower ratio childcare setting, awesome, but I'd still much prefer to spend that time with my own kid, if at all possible. And if it IS possible, why would I not take advantage of that?
Are centers actually stuffing to capacity? I would imagine the $15K-$24K/kid could be better spent if they are.

Just for infants the center is raking in $120K-$192K, but they are only paying the teacher $30K.

NVM, it looks like it varies by state.

In IL the state limits are a fraction of what yours are.

5 wks- 15 mos: 4:1
2 yrs: 5:1
2-3 yrs: 8:1
3-4: 10:1
5+: 20:1

FAQs. Child Care Options in Illinois
 
Old 03-19-2015, 07:02 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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It's the insurance premiums that make child care centers so expensive. They're, understandably, through the roof.
 
Old 03-19-2015, 07:34 AM
 
Location: New Yawk
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Those capacities are really high! I had my little guy in center-based daycare a couple of days per week last year, and his 3-year-old class had a 7:1 ratio.
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Yep. I worked in early childhood long enough to strongly feel that if it's at all possible for a parent to be the primary caregiver during waking hours in the pre-K years, it's vastly preferable. Not everyone can swing it, and I get that. But if I can, hell, yes, it's the choice I'm making.

I worked in a really great center, as well, and wouldn't describe the environment as cold. But the fact remains that in a room with 8 infants, 12 1-year olds, 14 2-year olds, or 24 3- and 4- year olds (the legislated capacities, and we always had a waitlist and full classrooms), the opportunities for forming adequate caregiver bonds are not sufficient. Even with the best caregivers in the world, their attention is split many ways. If you can work out a lower ratio childcare setting, awesome, but I'd still much prefer to spend that time with my own kid, if at all possible. And if it IS possible, why would I not take advantage of that?
 
Old 03-19-2015, 07:43 AM
 
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It's the insurance premiums that make child care centers so expensive. They're, understandably, through the roof.
Maybe, but I think the ratios are more of a factor. I would imagine that all daycare places have to insure against the same risks, but who knows what the pricing model actually looks like.
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