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Old 04-09-2015, 10:57 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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He went to college, she did not. So I assume he might've had some student debt. She obviously didn't. But she never worked during the marriage, only he did. She's in her mid-30s. Healthy. No pension.
Well, for whatever reason, the judge thought alimony was fair.
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Old 04-09-2015, 10:57 AM
 
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He went to college, she did not. So I assume he might've had some student debt. She obviously didn't. But she never worked during the marriage, only he did. She's in her mid-30s. Healthy. No pension.
Her choice???

Maybe a bad choice she should have to live with?
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Old 04-09-2015, 10:58 AM
 
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Well, for whatever reason, the judge thought alimony was fair.
Judges always are fair: see "the overwhelming favoritism towards women in child custody cases"

The same bias exists in divorce law... it's fact
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Old 04-09-2015, 10:59 AM
 
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It sounds like you are making a lot of assumptions about this situation. There are likely vital details about this relationship that you obviously know nothing about.
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Old 04-09-2015, 11:01 AM
 
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That is commonly used as an excuse, but how many times does it really work out in life that the woman actually goes on to have some sort of career? A lot of time, the woman has kids, never goes back to work, and that is her choice. Causes a lot of contention. And this is also used later on when they divorce.

Alimony is used as a weapon against men, plain and simple and it's being revised in a lot of states to fix the inequity
Actually most of the new laws put in place re: alimony are even worse for men than the old laws.
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Old 04-09-2015, 11:03 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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Personal experiences, and those of friends and colleagues.

Why are you even trying to argue this point, you know it's accurate...
Your personal experiences are not proof as to "what always happens".

My personal experience is that my now ex-husband was very angry when I kept my job after the birth of our first child. I did quit after the second. Years later when I returned to work, he was angry about that too. However, I am not going to state that my personal experience is common to mankind.
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Old 04-09-2015, 11:04 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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Judges always are fair: see "the overwhelming favoritism towards women in child custody cases"

The same bias exists in divorce law... it's fact

No, it is your opinion.
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Old 04-09-2015, 11:05 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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It sounds like you are making a lot of assumptions about this situation. There are likely vital details about this relationship that you obviously know nothing about.
Agreed.
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Old 04-09-2015, 11:06 AM
 
Location: NY
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Judges always are fair: see "the overwhelming favoritism towards women in child custody cases"

The same bias exists in divorce law... it's fact
I cannot speak for Petunia, but I think the overriding point being directed towards you is that you know zero first hand knowledge about the specific situation the OP has posted, other than what he has posted, and are otherwise providing us a lot of assumptions based on your own small sample size of anecdotal evidence and personal biases.

To state something completely unquantified is fact is a bit of a stretch at this point, and to support it with extreme examples of situations which are not commonplace to support an assertion that it happens all the time and is fact is a little disingenuous at best.
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Old 04-09-2015, 11:09 AM
 
Location: St. Catharines, ON
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It sounds like you are making a lot of assumptions about this situation. There are likely vital details about this relationship that you obviously know nothing about.
Of course there are things I don't know. But I think that most of the elements that go into a decision of alimony, in this particular case, point to disingenuous intentions. However, I could be very well wrong. It's just the information I am privy to paint a certain picture. I don't think these type of cases happen all the time, or in the least bit common. I also don't think it's a gender thing, nor have I ever made it into one. That's a separate issue. I've only commented on the little bit I know. And I've admitted that I'm not too familiar with the process of alimony.
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