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Old 05-12-2015, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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It’s basic biological drive for men to want to date younger females. I have little desire to chase women who are 40 plus.
I think you give far too much credit to 20-something women. As a 29 y/o guy, I've had my fair share of experiences with the 20-something female population. They tend to be indecisive, entitled, spoiled, have extremely high expectations of men and what they can provide for them, etc. So many of them think they are god's gift to the world.

If that's the type of woman you want to pursue, help yourself. I can say from personal experience that the juice is certainly not worth the squeeze most of the time.
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Old 05-12-2015, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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She's not an unattractive woman, so there must be something very off-putting about her in person if not one guy in 136 asked for a second date. (Note how the article says she didn't take them out again, not that she turned them all down. Uh, yeah, if a guy likes you on the first date, he'll ask you for a second.)





Speak for yourself. People don't suddenly shrivel up and look like a dried-apple doll at some arbitrary number. Plenty of 40-somethings around looking better and in much better shape than plenty of 20-somethings. You seem to be under the impression that women in their 30s and 40s care about living up to a 20-something's definition of hot. We don't.
Plenty is a subjective term. People still far and away prefer an average 25 year old and their body to a 45 year old and their body. Skin gets wrinkled and cracked, sun spots are left on the skin, muscle tone leaves the body, hair becomes more dry and thin, crows feet become more prevalent, aging is unavoidable and only the wealthiest people or the ones who dedicate themselves to protecting their body against aging can really truly hide it.

Back to the story though, attraction isn't everything. She might have had a horrible personality, and in that case it doesn't matter how hot you are, you've just gone down the dumpster and are not on people's radar for a second date.
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Old 05-12-2015, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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I think you give far too much credit to 20-something women. As a 29 y/o guy, I've had my fair share of experiences with the 20-something female population. They tend to be indecisive, entitled, spoiled, have extremely high expectations of men and what they can provide for them, etc. So many of them think they are god's gift to the world.

If that's the type of woman you want to pursue, help yourself. I can say from personal experience that the juice is certainly not worth the squeeze most of the time.
He is laying credit to the facts. Statistically speaking men almost always wed women who are younger than them. Your personal experiences don't mesh up with the proven statistics of millions of men.
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Old 05-12-2015, 10:04 AM
 
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Skin gets wrinkled and cracked, sun spots are left on the skin, muscle tone leaves the body, hair becomes more dry and thin, crows feet become more prevalent, aging is unavoidable and only the wealthiest people or the ones who dedicate themselves to protecting their body against aging can really truly hide it.
I have more muscle tone at 41 than I ever did in my 20's thanks to finally finding a type of exercise I actually enjoy doing.
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Old 05-12-2015, 10:06 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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I have more muscle tone at 41 than I ever did in my 20's thanks to finally finding a type of exercise I actually enjoy doing.

I think this is true with most late 30s/40 yos I've met. I'm far more muscular now than 20 years ago. Not even close.

Lots of younger women are thinner, on average, but they're certainly not in better physical condition. That's something else entirely.
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Old 05-12-2015, 10:19 AM
 
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I think you give far too much credit to 20-something women. As a 29 y/o guy, I've had my fair share of experiences with the 20-something female population. They tend to be indecisive, entitled, spoiled, have extremely high expectations of men and what they can provide for them, etc. So many of them think they are god's gift to the world.

If that's the type of woman you want to pursue, help yourself. I can say from personal experience that the juice is certainly not worth the squeeze most of the time.
Yes! I totally agree with this! I work around a lot of 20 something year old women as well, and they walk around like they are god's gift to men and try to act like they are just overall better, although a lot of them are average at best.

I refuse to deal with these self entitled, spoiled women, and I always encourage other men to follow my lead.


As for the OP, I personally hope she never dates again, she certainly doesn't need to since she is just going to waste everyone's time.
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Old 05-12-2015, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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He is laying credit to the facts. Statistically speaking men almost always wed women who are younger than them. Your personal experiences don't mesh up with the proven statistics of millions of men.
Yeah, they do. Like 3-5 years younger. I'm not arguing with that.

Fargobound's implication was that 40-something women are undesirable because they're old. There are plenty of 40-something or 50-something guys who would date 40-something women. And being 40-something doesn't necessarily mean you lost your sexual appeal. There are some good looking 40-somethings, especially those who take care of themselves. The last woman I was in a serious relationship with was 35 years old and she was actually hotter than many 20-somethings and 30-somethings whom I've dated.

For us looking for substance, maturity also plays a part in what we like and what we desire. If you're just looking for a warm body to ****, then yeah, the hot 20 y/o piece of *** is probably going to do it for you. Personally, I can't really stand the immaturity of most 20-something women I meet. A lot of them seem to be superficial and entitled. That's not my bread and butter.
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Old 05-12-2015, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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I have more muscle tone at 41 than I ever did in my 20's thanks to finally finding a type of exercise I actually enjoy doing.
That's great. But you'll never have the same tone at 41 that you could have had at 21.
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Old 05-12-2015, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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Yeah, they do. Like 3-5 years younger. I'm not arguing with that.

Fargobound's implication was that 40-something women are undesirable because they're old. There are plenty of 40-something or 50-something guys who would date 40-something women. And being 40-something doesn't necessarily mean you lost your sexual appeal. There are some good looking 40-somethings, especially those who take care of themselves. The last woman I was in a serious relationship with was 35 years old and she was actually hotter than many 20-somethings and 30-somethings whom I've dated.

For us looking for substance, maturity also plays a part in what we like and what we desire. If you're just looking for a warm body to ****, then yeah, the hot 20 y/o piece of *** is probably going to do it for you. Personally, I can't really stand the immaturity of most 20-something women I meet. A lot of them seem to be superficial and entitled. That's not my bread and butter.
I'll agree with that.

I don't think there is much of a connection between a 40 year old man and a 20 year old woman, besides physical attraction on the man's part and money and independence that the women sees in the man.

In my experience women change a lot in their 20's. 20-21 is just an extension of the teen years with a better understanding of the world, but still no understanding of independence or what it takes to survive and no appreciation for things either. 23-26 seem to be mostly level headed, still goo-goo eyed depending on the girl, 26+ seem to mostly be mature enough to know what they're after and know what's a ploy. I think most men are a few years behind the female curve, even in their 20's, too many are after tail, and since most of them get it I can't say the female population isn't after the same thing.
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Old 05-12-2015, 10:33 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Thank for visiting my profile! But yes, I do have a clue. It doesn't take being old to understand that the muscle tone leaves the body with age. I don't care how serious of an exercise fanatic you are, your body will never have the same potential in your 40's as it did in your 20's. Capiche?

No, not really. Most fitness buffs build more muscle and are better toned post 30 than in their 20s. It's taken years or decades to build it.
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