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Old 05-13-2015, 07:08 PM
 
Location: In a place beyond human comprehension
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I have no problem with stripping....you gotta do what you gotta do. But I wouldn't try to date a male stripper.

The fact you see yourself and him as numbers...speaks volumes about your maturity level. You seem quite insecure at the fact that he gets a lot of attention from females and don't feel worthy of his attention. If you were to be with him...9 times out of 10 you would constantly be worried about whether he is messing around with his clients, as well questioning why he is with you to begin with.

My advice...don't pursue. Stop thinking of yourself as "less than" and then try to find someone that you can TRUST.
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Old 05-13-2015, 07:09 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Cut him out of your life, find a nice stable boy who has a daytime job doing something more meaningful with his life.

Why? She's getting good sex. Nothing wrong with that as long as she uses the proper protection.
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Old 05-13-2015, 07:12 PM
 
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I have no problem with stripping....you gotta do what you gotta do. But I wouldn't try to date a male stripper.

The fact you see yourself and him as numbers...speaks volumes about your maturity level. You seem quite insecure at the fact that he gets a lot of attention from females and don't feel worthy of his attention. If you were to be with him...9 times out of 10 you would constantly be worried about whether he is messing around with his clients, as well questioning why he is with you to begin with.

My advice...don't pursue. Stop thinking of yourself as "less than" and then try to find someone that you can TRUST.
You are right about a lot here. I would question why he is with me, for example.

Gave me something to think about.
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Old 05-13-2015, 07:13 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Nothing. That is part of the problem. I want him to want me for an exclusive relationship. Even though he seems noncommittal in general.
Well, what do you have to offer that he needs or that he's not getting? You can't make him do anything he doesn't want to do.
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Old 05-13-2015, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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You are right about a lot here. I would question why he is with me, for example.

Gave me something to think about.
Because you're putting out without much effort; you're easy.
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Old 05-13-2015, 07:15 PM
 
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Why? She's getting good sex. Nothing wrong with that as long as she uses the proper protection.
Good sex? Yay. Dating a stripper? Yikes.
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Old 05-13-2015, 07:16 PM
 
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Well, what do you have to offer that he needs or that he's not getting? You can't make him do anything he doesn't want to do.
Hmm...that is a good point as well. What do guys need? Lol I know that sounds like a really general question, but what do they need...do they need someone who is entertaining to them? Someone intellectually stimulating? Someone they can trust with their secrets and feelings?
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Old 05-13-2015, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Earth
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You make it so negative...sex is a mutually pleasurable activity. You can only be "used" if you allow it to play out that way.
Yeah. But thing is, you sell yourself short if you want more than the casual agreement but keep doing it just because it's better than nothing.

But you shouldn't feel "honored" to have sex. Many guys will sleep with a woman. Doesn't mean he likes her as more than a sex buddy, and doesn't even have to mean he thinks she's attractive.

You can tell him your feelings, and if he's interested in that, great. If not, you either settle for keeping it casual, or break if off. Usually when girls develop feelings for a guy, it only gets worse the more you sleep with him, the more attached you get and more bitter, pissed off and sad that he won't be official or exclusive with you.

A girl I know had this problem. Her guy wasn't a stripper. But he had other women who liked him. He actually had a girlfriend, but took on a side-piece later. His side chick wanted him to leave his girlfriend and date her monogamously. That didn't happen, and she spent 2 years pining for this guy, wanting to be his girlfriend, and trying to be slick with telling him to only be sexual with her after his girlfriend dumped him. Then she finds not only does he make little time for her, even without a girlfriend, he met a new girl that he'd actually been spending more time with. She was nowhere near content by the time she finally had the jewels to leave.

Usually with younger girls, this happens. They start casual arrangements, then end up attached and wanting more. And in all the cases I have seen, it never turned into more. Only drama before the guy dumped the girl, or she had to be the one to walk away.

And he's still a stripper. So he will be in contact with other women for his job. Don't think he'll quit his job for you, if you won't be happy with that. Usually with guys that have a good number of women, you are always going to worry if he's messing around. So in many cases, if you want a man that has tons of women, and likes the attention, you normally have to get used to sharing them. That's what the girl I mentioned had to do if she wanted to be with him. She couldn't accept that, and finally left.

And if this guy used to do 3sums with a woman, he seems to show he is not monogamous, and wouldn't be happy with just 1 partner and nobody else.
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Old 05-13-2015, 07:18 PM
 
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Hi.

My problem is simple.

I am about a 7 on the looks scale, honestly. I am 21 years of age.

But the guy I am now shooting for is at LEAST an 8 to me, if not a 9. To complicate it further, he is a male stripper who gets a LOT of female attention. I mean his clients adore him, as far as I can tell. I definitely adore him.

He's not a douchebag either. He is the sweetest stripper EVER. He's always happy and nice and crap.

And unlike most guys, he is pretty positive and nonjudgmental about sex.

I feel honored to be having a casual sexual relationship with this man. But, like a greedy pig, I want more.

Since he is out of my league AND has plenty of other options...how do I get him to choose ME as a real girlfriend?
What about your body?
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Old 05-13-2015, 07:19 PM
 
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Because you're putting out without much effort; you're easy.
You missed the part where I said he isn't judgmental about sex, unlike most men. Such as yourself.

This is a guy who dated a girl who used to do MMF threesomes with him. I doubt he has your reservations about his girl's "easiness".

That is part of what makes him such a gem to me.
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