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Why wouldn't she know what she was doing? The excuses I've heard so far -- she was in pain, she was scared, her hormones were in overdrive, etc. -- would never be acceptable excuses if a man hit his wife/girlfriend/kids/whatever. We're expected to rise above our primal instincts and reactions to control ourselves. There's no reason not to expect the same from women.
These aren't excuses. This is childbirth we are talking about. Men don't give birth. But if my husband had been in excruciating pain for hours and he lashed out at me - I wouldn't hold it against him. I might not like it but I would know that he wasn't in his right mind. We aren't talking about a cycle of abuse. We are talking about extreme circumstances and not being in your right mind. Do people on here really not understand even the simplest things about labor?
Well a typo on my part..I guess I should've added that it was accident, bad on my part to assume intelligent people would not realize that from what I describe....
Since you equated what he did with a deliberate act, there was no reason why even an intelligent person wouldn't also conclude that his act was deliberate. Your lack of clarity is not a reflection on my intelligence.
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Originally Posted by Dewdroplet76
These aren't excuses. This is childbirth we are talking about...
LOL. "These aren't excuses" -- followed promptly by an excuse.
People claim not to be in their right mind all the time when committing impulsive acts. That doesn't excuse them. If your husband smacks you in a moment of great stress and you can come to grips with that, that's between you two -- I'm not saying you're wrong for doing so. It's still assault and it's still domestic violence, "cycle" thereof or not.
"Gee, since it's not a CYCLE...." See the excuses still flowing here?
You made it sound like he did hit you. If he didn't, then why did you equate what he did with a woman whom, if the description here is accurate, quite deliberately hit her husband?
Well a typo on my part..I guess I should've added that it was accident, bad on my part to assume intelligent people would not realize that from what I describe....
Since you equated what he did with a deliberate act, there was no reason why even an intelligent person wouldn't also conclude that his act was deliberate. Your lack of clarity is not a reflection on my intelligence.
It was not deliberate, I step in-front of on coming object , his hand .....ACCIDENT!
What I said below...
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I disagree in the case being discussed here!... Years ago while dating my hubby we were in the kitchen with family all around and hubby open my folks fridge door I took a step in front of him as he was reaching out to shut the door and I got his hand in my face, was that abuse?? In your book yes, in ours nope! He felt awful, so yeah things happen... Your the one having problems with what is what...From all indications the man who posted this story about his wife doesn't mention past abusive behavior on her part!
I suggest u take your own advice if you think its ok for women to hit men.
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Originally Posted by Drover
Since you equated what he did with a deliberate act, there was no reason why even an intelligent person wouldn't also conclude that his act was deliberate. Your lack of clarity is not a reflection on my intelligence.
LOL. "These aren't excuses" -- followed promptly by an excuse.
People claim not to be in their right mind all the time when committing impulsive acts. That doesn't excuse them. If your husband smacks you in a moment of great stress and you can come to grips with that, that's between you two -- I'm not saying you're wrong for doing so. It's still assault and it's still domestic violence, "cycle" thereof or not.
"Gee, since it's not a CYCLE...." See the excuses still flowing here?
Do you guys really not understand what childbirth is like? I mean, I can understand not knowing the specifics - but it seems as you guys think it's the same as an argument or drinking too much.
Do you guys really not understand what childbirth is like? I mean, I can understand not knowing the specifics - but it seems as you guys think it's the same as an argument or drinking too much.
I know that since this thread started, countless women gave birth to countless children without assaulting anyone within reach. Stop making excuses for the one who couldn't.
I know that since this thread started, countless women gave birth to countless children without assaulting anyone within reach. Stop making excuses for the one who couldn't.
Good grief.
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