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Don't you think...if you are trying to have a relationship with a live woman.....it may just behoove you to understand things from a woman's point of view? Than again...I am not sure the OP and a few others....really want a woman to share things with.
I find that women don't understand the struggle that a normal guy experiences, just as I don't really understand the struggles that women experience.
Women give advice based on their own experiences, which tend to be significantly different from that of men.
I do agree that Burgler is more likely to give better advice in this situation than I am since he is engaged. But we seem to agree well enough.
Even if you want a family...you don't commit to just anyone.......4 dates? That is merely a blink.
4 dates for a kiss?
There was a thread not too long back and all the women were saying how terrible a guy is if he doesn't "take initiatve" on the first or second date.
Hell, I said I typically would wait 3 dates and people thought it was excessive. Now this guy wants at least some committment and no games after 4 dates and you act like he has some sort of ego and is an a-hole? Sorry, I don't buy it.
There was a thread not too long back and all the women were saying how terrible a guy is if he doesn't "take initiatve" on the first or second date.
Hell, I said I typically would wait 3 dates and people thought it was excessive. Now this guy wants at least some committment and no games after 4 dates and you act like he has some sort of ego and is an a-hole? Sorry, I don't buy it.
I remember the day I first met my husband...the day we went on our first date...the day we first kissed....and a few other notable firsts....and that first kiss was a bit longer than four short dates (time wise it was quick from meeting to getting married and starting a family...but the first kiss? 6 weeks and at least a dozen times we went on dates or hung out .......and we had fallen in love at first sight (and neither one of us were exactly prudish sexually either....so it wasn't that.)
Believe me..I think the OP needs to cut bait...for her sake...because he doesn't see this woman as a person to fall in maybe fall in love with...but just a checkmark on a list.
Yeah, at this rate, they'll have sex in about 2 years, marriage in 7.
Nope...or he could be married 4 months later and a father in 13 months...still happily married after 21 years. (And all ya'all think I have been blunt...you probably really don't want to hear his comments about some of the posts I've shared with him...lol).
Nope...or he could be married 4 months later and a father in 13 months...still happily married after 21 years. (And all ya'all think I have been blunt...you probably really don't want to hear his comments about some of the posts I've shared with him...lol).
It's similar to how a lot of relationships go.....the time lines may vary....(the love at first sight thing certainly is the one thing that is unlikely...I'll give you that.. it's also very optional to a successful relationship)...but you don't start relationships by wanting a check mark on your life list...they don't include time-lines and deadlines.
It's similar to how a lot of relationships go.....the time lines may vary....(the love at first sight thing certainly is the one thing that is unlikely...I'll give you that.. it's also very optional to a successful relationship)...but you don't start relationships by wanting a check mark on your life list...they don't include time-lines and deadlines.
That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I'm more inclined to look at things from a more practical view point.
To each their own.
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