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I started having children at a young age. I love them all and don't regret them, but I recommend waiting a few more years.
Why not put numbers on it? Otherwise you just sound like a hypocrite. When people say "I did this, and it was great, for me, but you should do that, its a better choice... ... really? People aren't going to get that.
Lol.. A lot of people have their kids in their 30's. Your inexperience in life is already showing. Your entire post was utter nonsense. So much so that I am embarrassed for you.
I never said a lot of people in their 30's have kids. I said it was not (and is not) a "best" practice. A lot of people eat excessive amounts of sugar and diabetes and its complications are crippling and killing record numbers of Americans. You're response was a tad bit intense considering it was attacking the truth. What's that about? Even people who were only able to have children after years of trying and tens of thousands of dollars of fertility treatments still recommend delaying romantic involvement and childbearing into middle age. I just don't get that.
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I never said a lot of people in their 30's have kids. I said it was not (and is not) a "best" practice. A lot of people eat excessive amounts of sugar and diabetes and its complications are crippling and killing record numbers of Americans. You're response was a tad bit intense considering it was attacking the truth. What's that about? Even people who were only able to have children after years of trying and tens of thousands of dollars of fertility treatments still recommend delaying romantic involvement and childbearing into middle age. I just don't get that.
Because 30s isn't old (only at the tail end of ones thirties can someone be considered middle aged), and most people don't need any fertility treatment at all... and gasp, they might have found a suitable partner by then, and gasp, they might have finished school, become established in their career track, and what do you know! Might be in place to emotionally and economically handle reproducing.
It's shocking that people are promoting responsibility!
Eh. Plenty of people deliberately choose to go about things differently than previous generations and avoid pitfalls of others' choices.
The big difference is now we are coming up against the hard limits of biology. Humans were not meant to be first time parents in their 30's. It works, but it is an open question as to how well it works. Older parents have put a record number of sup-bar offspring into the genetic pool. When these young children and infants age out of home and parental care the burden to society will be immense. Unlovable, unemployable in many cases in need of supervision around the clock, where will the necessary man-power to take their place in the labor force and also see to their care and feeding come from?
I was living on my own at 18. An 18 year old in 2015 is still a child. Mentally! An 18 year old of 2015 is much more physically and sexually mature than an 18 year old in 1977 but the 2015 version is more likely to still be a virgin, asexual or heteroconfused, unemployed, and dependent on parents for food and shelter.. I'm not really seeing how remaining an adolescent into one's 20's is avoiding pitfalls of earlier generations.
Because 30s isn't old (only at the tail end of ones thirties can someone be considered middle aged), and most people don't need any fertility treatment at all... and gasp, they might have found a suitable partner by then, and gasp, they might have finished school, become established in their career track, and what do you know! Might be in place to emotionally and economically handle reproducing.
It's shocking that people are promoting responsibility!
You continue to miss my point. All you say is true. Except the part that "most don't need any fertility treatment at all". That is untrue. Being responsible is great. But the biology is very inflexible. The price for the one is that the overall fertility rate of the United States is falling. It is far from causing any panic yet, but the trend is clear. And because the economic pressures only increase as time goes on the 30 somethings that are the middle of the bell curve are giving way to people who wait even longer. 40 somethings being first time parents are not at all uncommon. 50 somethings are very rare but not all that fantastic. You have to look to the 60's before you find the examples at the edges of credulity but even they exist. So where do you draw the line? 30's is old. I know you don't think so but it is. Biologically its old. That's why pro athletes are finished in their 30's. You will never be better than your 30's. That's the peak, my friend. For physical, artistic, emotional and psychological attainment. For childbirth and rearing the mid-teens to the mid-twenties is still the peak. It just is. I'm not saying we should promote teen-agers being parents!!! I did NOT say that. But don't tell me it is a great development to have 30 somethings feeling superior about having waited. For too many of them (and you will never know them) it led to a missed opportunity.
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