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Is there no common sense middle ground to be found between victim blaming and owning the fact that we live in a less than perfect world and rape is an unfortunate part of it? Is it really such a bad thing to suggest that women, as the weaker sex, should take precautions to avoid being raped?
Is someone falsely accused of rape any less of a victim than a person that's been raped? It's a pretty damning thing to be accused of (as it should be for actual rapists).
I'm not sure why people think that women aren't told to take precautions. Of course women are told to take precautions - to be safe, try to watch out for your friends, don't walk around late at night by yourself, try not to put yourself in bad situations, etc. But the point is that when people don't take precautions - it's still not a reason to rape them.
Rape is horrible and nobody should be doing it to anyone, but blanketing the issue like this isn't helping anyone's awareness on either end.
What is there for them to be made aware of that they haven't already been told? These cretins know rape is wrong. They are just attempting to justify it. They are blaming the victims. And they are wrong. Again, it is NEVER a woman's fault that she's been raped. It is ALWAYS the rapist's fault. There is nothing to argue. There is nothing to debate. It is an absolute.
These amoung many other reasons are why men don't care and its turned into a CYA culture. If some guy gets involved in some event that is going down it does not take much before he is sitting in a police station being questioned himself. There is increasing pressure on police to get brutal on "rape" and anyone in the wake of such an event.
The burden of proof is getting less and less and we are slowly shifting to men being accused of rape being guilting until proven innocent. It was funny until it started happening.
Then even after you prove your innocent after tens of thousands of dollars, your academic career or sports or whatever is usually down the drain.
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Originally Posted by Philosophizer
Is there no common sense middle ground to be found between victim blaming and owning the fact that we live in a less than perfect world and rape is an unfortunate part of it? Is it really such a bad thing to suggest that women, as the weaker sex, should take precautions to avoid being raped?
Is someone falsely accused of rape any less of a victim than a person that's been raped? It's a pretty damning thing to be accused of (as it should be for actual rapists).
I'm not sure why people think that women aren't told to take precautions. Of course women are told to take precautions - to be safe, try to watch out for your friends, don't walk around late at night by yourself, try not to put yourself in bad situations, etc. But the point is that when people don't take precautions - it's still not a reason to rape them.
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Unbelievable. Absolutely unfreakingbelievable, the insanity on this thread.
What is there for them to be made aware of that they haven't already been told? These cretins know rape is wrong. They are just attempting to justify it.
It turns the issues in to a segregated one instead of actually treating people on equal footing.
You can't promote equality between two things while only focusing on the negatives of one. That goes against the core of what you are trying to accomplish.
I'm not sure why people think that women aren't told to take precautions. Of course women are told to take precautions - to be safe, try to watch out for your friends, don't walk around late at night by yourself, try not to put yourself in bad situations, etc. But the point is that when people don't take precautions - it's still not a reason to rape them.
It turns the issues in to a segregated one instead of actually treating people on equal footing.
You can't promote equality between two things while only focusing on the negatives of one. That goes against the core of what you are trying to accomplish.
I honestly have no idea what you are talking about. We have a single poster on here that is trying to blame rape on feminism and almost every other poster - men and women - refuting that. He keeps talking about how if a woman sleeps with a bunch of men, then the men that she refuses to sleep with might end up raping her because she is being cruel to them.
This isn't a men against women thing. This is one poster trying to blame rape (as if it's a new concept) on women and feminism.
I honestly have no idea what you are talking about. We have a single poster on here that is trying to blame rape on feminism and almost every other poster - men and women - refuting that. He keeps talking about how if a woman sleeps with a bunch of men, then the men that she refuses to sleep with might end up raping her because she is being cruel to them.
This isn't a men against women thing. This is one poster trying to blame rape (as if it's a new concept) on women and feminism.
And thanks to one poster - this thread has been completely derailed. Rape wasn't even the point of this article. The point was that young women don't always understand that sex for sex's sake isn't always what will make them happiest.
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