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Maybe so, but that never seems to stop you grass-eating, tree-hugging, marxist, socialist-loving, materialistic, nihilistic, lonely, hippie progressive atheists from patting each other on the backs and spewing your bullshyte on the relationship thread either. It's all over this one but you are probably to closed minded to see it. We got it, Christmas to you is bs because it's pointless to celebrate a "bearded sky guy". People of your ilk would rather believe that this infinitely vast universe was, at one point, in the middle of nothingness and was trillions of times smaller than the head of a pin. And, believe that non-living inorganic matter like rocks could eventually give rise to all of the living matter which exists today. Christmas may not mean anything to you, Scrooge, but it does to a great deal more than people who think like you. As far as the OP is concerned, how hard would it be to endure one day to make his wife and children happy? I don't think it's too much to ask. No offense to the non-arrogant atheists, who don't think they know it all.
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Maybe so, but that never seems to stop you grass-eating, tree-hugging, marxist, socialist-loving, materialistic, nihilistic, lonely, hippie progressive atheists from patting each other on the backs and spewing your bullshyte on the relationship thread either. It's all over this one but you are probably to closed minded to see it. We got it, Christmas to you is bs because it's pointless to celebrate a "bearded sky guy". People of your ilk would rather believe that this infinitely vast universe was, at one point, in the middle of nothingness and was trillions of times smaller than the head of a pin. And, believe that non-living inorganic matter like rocks could eventually give rise to all of the living matter which exists today. Christmas may not mean anything to you, Scrooge, but it does to a great deal more than people who think like you. As far as the OP is concerned, how hard would it be to endure one day to make his wife and children happy? I don't think it's too much to ask. No offense to the non-arrogant atheists, who don't think they know it all.
God, you made so many incorrect assumptions about me. I'll quickly correct them for you, carnivore to the core (you don't get to 6'5 300+ eating grass), non tree-hugger, I don't even know what Marxism entails, you got me on nihilistic, I have plenty of friends; not lonely, not a hippie, again right on counts of being progressive and a (weak) atheist.
Check my post near the beginning of the thread; I clearly stated that I think OPs husband at the very least should go to dinner with his wife and kids, if he does nothing else. But please continue to try and denigrate me.
Wow. So, for b-days, he doesn't want to receive presents? Doesn't want to mark the day at all? Nor to commemorate yours or the kids' birthdays? So, he's not just a Christmas Grinch, he's a birthday Grinch, too?
Does he have any plans for New Year's Eve? Does he boycott Valentine's Day, too? Or does he make every day Valentine's Day? (Somehow, I have my doubts...)
He accepts gifts but he rather not. He will complain but still participate , we are actually hosting a New Years party this year and has not said anything. The big problem is Christmas Eve dinner.
Or she should respect him and not force beliefs on him he doesn't like. The OP needs to grow up, not him. Not everyone likes Christmas and shouldn't participate if they don't want.
So she needs to grow up and not her husband because she wants her entire family to spend a time of the year that she feels is important, with each other?
To me, that's selfish as hell to act like her husband. He doesnt like the holiday, fine, but his family does and he creates such a stink to not celebrate it, and he upsets his family, yeah its selfish on his part.
It's one day out of the year, someone needs to put their big boy pants on, join the family, and lose the attitude.
When you're in a relationship, or a part of a family, sometimes you have to do things you don't want to do. That's life.
So she needs to grow up and not her husband because she wants her entire family to spend a time of the year that she feels is important, with each other?
Too me, that's selfish as hell to act like her husband. He doesnt like the holiday, fine, but his family does and he creates such a stink to not celebrate it, and he upsets his family, yeah its selfish on his part.
It's one day out of the year, someone needs to put their big boy pants on, join the family, and lose the attitude.
When you're in a relationship, or a part of a family, sometimes you have to do things you don't want to do. That's life.
I agree. It's more important to make the sacrifice than just sulk and refuse to go.
As an atheist, I don't believe in anything related to the origin of Christmas but I love Christmas, especially now that I have 2 young nephews. The look on their faces, the excitement when they open gifts is a great thing to be a part of!
I had rather bad childhood and Christmas was horrible time of year for me, so I dont care for it too much, BUT I suck it up for the people I love so they can enjoy it.
So she needs to grow up and not her husband because she wants her entire family to spend a time of the year that she feels is important, with each other?
To me, that's selfish as hell to act like her husband. He doesnt like the holiday, fine, but his family does and he creates such a stink to not celebrate it, and he upsets his family, yeah its selfish on his part.
It's one day out of the year, someone needs to put their big boy pants on, join the family, and lose the attitude.
When you're in a relationship, or a part of a family, sometimes you have to do things you don't want to do. That's life.
Well, I'm not in a relationship because I know a woman is gonna force me to do things I don't like. I'd rather be alone than be controlled. My mother tried this on me as a child and I nearly resented her for it. So, she gave me the choice and I have never celebrated Christmas because that's my right and she respects that. Why is it ok for a woman to do what they want but a man can't?
I don't understand why the OP doesn't leave him alone to be miserable all by himself during the holidays. His choice.
If I were the OP, I'd start some family holiday traditions for her and the kids to enjoy without him, like vacations away from him, for example! I bet the kids would love the tradition of spending Christmas at places like the Disneyland resort in Hawaii.
Maybe so, but that never seems to stop you grass-eating, tree-hugging, marxist, socialist-loving, materialistic, nihilistic, lonely, hippie progressive atheists from patting each other on the backs and spewing your bullshyte on the relationship thread either. It's all over this one but you are probably to closed minded to see it. We got it, Christmas to you is bs because it's pointless to celebrate a "bearded sky guy". People of your ilk would rather believe that this infinitely vast universe was, at one point, in the middle of nothingness and was trillions of times smaller than the head of a pin. And, believe that non-living inorganic matter like rocks could eventually give rise to all of the living matter which exists today. Christmas may not mean anything to you, Scrooge, but it does to a great deal more than people who think like you. As far as the OP is concerned, how hard would it be to endure one day to make his wife and children happy? I don't think it's too much to ask. No offense to the non-arrogant atheists, who don't think they know it all.
On the other hand, religious freakazoids would rather believe that some great being in the sky created this vast universe. They never take the next step and think about how it is even more improbable that this great being somehow just materialized out of nothingness sometime in the past before she created the universe.
I don't understand why the OP doesn't leave him alone to be miserable all by himself during the holidays. His choice.
If I were the OP, I'd start some family holiday traditions for her and the kids to enjoy without him, like vacations away from him, for example! I bet the kids would love the tradition of spending Christmas at places like the Disneyland resort in Hawaii.
i was actually considering this. My father lives in the Dominican Republic. I am sure he would love to spend his holidays with his family.
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