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In relationship stuff I think it's often an effort on a woman's part to establish that she's on roughly equal footing with a man. I understand why women say this, because lots of people don't believe women are on roughly equal footing with men.
I think some women inadvertently oversell this point, along the lines of what Chowhound said. At some point I'm going to wonder who she's trying to convince.
And then some women say it, often, to make a point. It can serve as a shield of sorts.
What does it mean when a woman claims to be strong and independent? Strong in what way? Independent in relation to what? Even men acknowledge that no man is an island, so I don't get what women think when they claim to be independent. No one is independent.
Also why do such women feel the need to broadcast to the world how strong and independent they think they are? Are they trying to convince themselves of it? Do they think the world cares? Are they trying to prove something? Does anyone notice whatever it is they're proving?
The reason I bring this up is because I see it so often on dating sites. "I'm strong, and independent, and men are intimidated and threatened by me". Intimidated and threatened by what exactly? What's so scary about these women? When they say that men are intimidated, I think what's really going on is that men are irritated. And when they say threatened, I think that means repulsed.
The ironic thing is that in real life I don't think I've met a woman who actually acts like that, except maybe once or twice. What is it about dating sites that makes people feel like they have to act like they're something special or something to be in awe of?
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And this is precisely why I lean on my friend. It's nice to have someone around who is willing to wear the pants for me so I can take a break from doing it.
At the same time, when you've been doing it most of your life, it's a really hard habit to break and I do have to be careful not to just automatically take charge.
I get your point. As a guy I have always been the pants wearer myself since I had to rely on myself even when I had someone. It's always good to share the 'pants wearing' but sometimes you get som used to it that you automatically switch to this mode, I get that.
But women who use the strong and independent all the time have some confidence issues. With a good man, you will never have to say that because he will treat you as his equal. Always made me wonder why some women have to always say it unless they are hooking up with men who don't treat them equal.
It is also a red flag for me. I have had my share of 'strong and independent' women who turned out to not really be and had daddy issues.
No one is "threatened" by "strong independent women." It's literally the mental gymnastics they use to rationalize why most men can't stand being around them, but in writing.
There are women who are smart, successful, and off on their own that don't need to tell every person how strong and independent they are.
Then there are the women who would rather be men in character and attitude. These are the ones projecting how strong and independent they are. And when men don't call back after a long date of being grilled about his future ambitions, coarse language, and tales of how bad ass she is at the office, they just rationalize that he was threatened. Nah, you're personality is grating and annoying.
What does it mean when a woman claims to be strong and independent? Strong in what way? Independent in relation to what? Even men acknowledge that no man is an island, so I don't get what women think when they claim to be independent. No one is independent.
Also why do such women feel the need to broadcast to the world how strong and independent they think they are? Are they trying to convince themselves of it? Do they think the world cares? Are they trying to prove something? Does anyone notice whatever it is they're proving?
The reason I bring this up is because I see it so often on dating sites. "I'm strong, and independent, and men are intimidated and threatened by me". Intimidated and threatened by what exactly? What's so scary about these women? When they say that men are intimidated, I think what's really going on is that men are irritated. And when they say threatened, I think that means repulsed.
The ironic thing is that in real life I don't think I've met a woman who actually acts like that, except maybe once or twice. What is it about dating sites that makes people feel like they have to act like they're something special or something to be in awe of?
I would consider myself strong and indepent woman. I don't going around advertising it and just assume people can pick up on that. I do not see it as a bad thing. Hey I am totally proud that as a women or person in general I can take care of myself and do not really need to be dependent on anyone in a significant sense. That does not mean I do not like doing things with other people, but in reality if I want to do something or obtain something it is going to happen with or without someone else by my side. I think for some women like myself it may serve as a reminder that I am not really looking for someone to take care of me ... I want to be with someone that can enjoy life with me.
Also for me I would think it also reminds that I do not want to be attached at the hip to anyone ex. We do not need to do EVERYTHING together. I find in general people are not often that great at really describing what they want because sometimes we really do not know and it can change day by day. Also regarding the strong part ... it may also be a way to send out the do think I am going to let you push me around vibe or the I am not putting up with all the BS vibe. If you look at it this way it might just be a good things to know this in advance. If you are looking for someone to shut up and know their place... well then you probably would not want to go out with someone who describes themselves as strong and independent.
Basic example. Someone like me makes plans with you to go to an event, trip or concernt. You say you can't make it. That is okay... but I am still going anyways. If you are the type of person that would be upset if your partner went on vaction, to a night club, concert or event without you then this situation would not work that well.
That does not mean I do not like doing things with other people, but in reality if I want to do something or obtain something it is going to happen with or without someone else by my side. I think for some women like myself it may serve as a reminder that I am not really looking for someone to take care of me ... I want to be with someone that can enjoy life with me.
Exactly. I wasted too much time not doing things because I didn't have someone to go with and didn't want to go alone. Now if I want to do something, I do it even if it means going it alone. Yeah, there are some things that would be much more fun to do with another and I don't want all my stories to be "remember when we...oh, wait I did that alone." Sadly, I am at that tipping point where I do feel too many of my adventures are being done solo. I want companionship - that's natural human behavior - but I'm capable of taking care of myself.
No one is "threatened" by "strong independent women." It's literally the mental gymnastics they use to rationalize why most men can't stand being around them, but in writing.
There are women who are smart, successful, and off on their own that don't need to tell every person how strong and independent they are.
Then there are the women who would rather be men in character and attitude. These are the ones projecting how strong and independent they are. And when men don't call back after a long date of being grilled about his future ambitions, coarse language, and tales of how bad ass she is at the office, they just rationalize that he was threatened. Nah, you're personality is grating and annoying.
Pretty much.
Then you have those who proclaim to be all strong and independent until CERTAIN dating situations are in front of her.
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