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Why would a woman spend time trying to understand MGTOW? That's sort of like asking a black person to sit down and try to understand a KKK member. I really don't see a point.
Why is this thread still going on? There are far more important things to worry about in this country then a bunch of dudes who want attention for not being able to get laid. There's an entire city of people who don't have clean drinking water right now as we speak due to criminal negligence. And this is what people want to talk about?
Just becuase you don't like what's being discussed or it makes you uncomfortable doesn't mean it isn't an interest to others...
It's normal to want to try and understand people when their motivations make little sense to our own.
Sometimes. And sometimes not. Would you be interested in talking to women who start a movement about wanting nothing to do with men? And who often talk about men in derogatory terms? And have no interest in understanding men? I just don't see the point.
It's not exactly that I don't like what's being discussed and it doesn't make me uncomfortable - I just don't see why people who aren't prejudiced should be the ones to try to understand the ones that are prejudiced. Shouldn't it be the other way around? And why should the people who aren't prejudiced be shamed because they don't like people that are prejudiced?
Just becuase you don't like what's being discussed or it makes you uncomfortable doesn't mean it isn't an interest to others...
It's normal to want to try and understand people when their motivations make little sense to our own.
What is there to discuss? A lot of the very people who have posted on this thread have come to the same conclusion, These are a bunch of excuse-making losers who want attention and blame women for their failures. The only effect they could possibly have on society is if they start lashing out like another Elliott Rogers or George Sodini in order to get the attention they so desperately crave.
They sure as hell aren't going to get any sympathy, especially from the group the so desperately want it from: women
Sometimes. And sometimes not. Would you be interested in talking to women who start a movement about wanting nothing to do with men? And who often talk about men in derogatory terms? And have no interest in understanding men? I just don't see the point.
It's not exactly that I don't like what's being discussed and it doesn't make me uncomfortable - I just don't see why people who aren't prejudiced should be the ones to try to understand the ones that are prejudiced. Shouldn't it be the other way around? And why should the people who aren't prejudiced be shamed because they don't like people that are prejudiced?
i have been interested and have discussed just what you described.
What I found was different layers of fanaticism all held within the same blanketed term for those who would champion their individual gender rights and qualities.
its no different here outside of it being the opposite gender.
As far as "what is their to discuss?"
Nothing for you. You have already drawn your conclusions and given yourself all the answers you care to have.
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Sometimes. And sometimes not. Would you be interested in talking to women who start a movement about wanting nothing to do with men? And who often talk about men in derogatory terms? And have no interest in understanding men? I just don't see the point.
I do understand it a bit. Its just that they don't seem to be able to rationally discuss it, and their language (on here) seems really patronizing.
I mean, I would like to understand why adversaries (say Al Qaeda) want to attack us in their words, as I really don't trust the reasons we're told by our government (they hate our freedoms), etc. That's an obvious example, but I would like to understand people that don't like me, or are my adversaries, or whatever you want to call them. I don't think there can be peace without understanding. Now, if it is indeed a negligibly small group of whiners who aren't capable of communicating their thoughts, and/or those thoughts are based on erroneous information, then yeah, probably not much of a point.
Though my time is probably better sent putting some records up for sale or going and getting a burrito.
Just becuase you don't like/don't have a personal interest of what's being discussed it doesn't mean it isn't an interest to others...
It's normal to want to try and understand people when their motivations make little sense to our own.
Everyone here understands very clearly what the motive of this thread is all about.
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Originally Posted by Ro2113
Why is this thread still going on? There are far more important things to worry about in this country then a bunch of dudes who want attention for not being able to get laid. There's an entire city of people who don't have clean drinking water right now as we speak due to criminal negligence. And this is what people want to talk about?
i have been interested and have discussed just what you described.
What I found was different layers of fanaticism all held within the same blanketed term for those who would champion their individual gender rights and qualities.
its no different here outside of it being the opposite gender.
Most prejudices boil down to the same few things - mostly fear and blame.
My point about the gender is that it's always more pleasant when it isn't you that is being targeted.
I do understand it a bit. Its just that they don't seem to be able to rationally discuss it, and their language (on here) seems really patronizing.
I mean, I would like to understand why adversaries (say Al Qaeda) want to attack us in their words, as I really don't trust the reasons we're told by our government (they hate our freedoms), etc. That's an obvious example, but I would like to understand people that don't like me, or are my adversaries, or whatever you want to call them. I don't think there can be peace without understanding. Now, if it is indeed a negligibly small group of whiners who aren't capable of communicating their thoughts, and/or those thoughts are based on erroneous information, then yeah, probably not much of a point.
Though my time is probably better sent putting some records up for sale or going and getting a burrito.
Yeah - that's my feeling, too. Al Qaeda and the like - YES, I want to understand. People are being killed. In order to attain peace, there has to be some sort of understanding. And although I'm not sure that peace is possible, I'd like to think there might be a way. But MGTOW or the feminists who hate men, unless they are actually causing harm, I don't really need to understand their whining.
And - totally agree with the patronizing. An insult is still an insult even if it's dressed up in some flowery language.
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