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Old 03-03-2016, 12:45 PM
 
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Have you gotten there yet?

If not how do you know?
For starters, testosterone levels drops and menopause.

 
Old 03-03-2016, 12:45 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, California
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Neither men nor women are in their sexual primes @ 50+. Get a hold of yourself.
true, in nature most humans are at the end of the life span by the 50 + age

humans were never intended to mate or have offspring at that age, even though some people still do in these modern days, thats not how nature intended it to be.

Thats why they have stuff like Viagra [artificial sexual enhancement drugs], it's natures way of telling the man he's past his sexual prime and should not be breeding / mating.
 
Old 03-03-2016, 12:49 PM
 
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For starters, testosterone levels drops and menopause.
For starters, as perimenopause begins, progesterone and estrogen levels both drop and therefore testosterone dominates in comparison to the whole, potentially shooting a woman's sex drive through the roof, at least as compared to her sex drive in previous periods during her life.
 
Old 03-03-2016, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Jupiter
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It's not unusual for women to have kids in their 40's. Some begin to have trouble conceiving, but most keep on trucking, if that's what they and their partner want. It's far from an across-the-board thing. IMO the guys who believe it is are getting their info from online blogs, not from real-life observation. Clearly, they've never known women who give birth (some--multiple times) in their 40's, to say nothing of 50.
I usually go by what I see in my daily life. Lots of couples around of all ages and there are some attractive women beyond 40 as well.
 
Old 03-03-2016, 12:59 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Thats why they have stuff like Viagra [artificial sexual enhancement drugs], it's natures way of telling the man he's past his sexual prime and should not be breeding / mating.

You do know that tons of dudes that age don't need stuff like that?
 
Old 03-03-2016, 01:36 PM
 
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What would have happened would have been that a significant percentage of men would never have made it to "older," and the very few who did would have the majority of the women due to being "viable" while the rest of the men would have been relegated to masturbating to erotic cave paintings (and if they attempted to nab one of the harem they'd be kicked out of the tribe, maimed, or maimed and kicked out of the tribe).

Meanwhile those few remaining uber-strong death-defying males would be in CONSTANT, and I mean constant competition for Alpha Dude against far younger, far stronger, far more testosterone-fueled males anxious to take over the title.

Next?
The above may be a reason that patriarchy and arranged marriages started happening within tribes. There wouldn't be enough "alphas" to defend and an entire tribe from a large raid of barbaric "regular guys". How would a tribe, with say five strong warriors, stop a pillage of 50 raiders if they really wanted to take all of the goods and the women? That's likely what did happen, well it happened a lot throughout recorded history anyway. The brute force, fight-to-the-death competition probably ended with the women being taken by the fighting force with the largest number, alpha or not.
 
Old 03-03-2016, 01:38 PM
 
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The above may be a reason that patriarchy and arranged marriages started happening within tribes. There wouldn't be enough "alphas" to defend and an entire tribe from a large raid of barbaric "regular guys". How would a tribe with say five strong warriors stop pillage of 50 raiders if they really wanted to take all of the goods and the women? That's likely what did happen, well it happened a lot in throughout recorded history anyway. The brute force, fight-to-the-death competition probably ended with the women being taken by the fighting force with the largest number, alpha or not.
Sounds like a solid theory to me. Interesting.

At least as tribes started getting more aggressive overall. Because in many "group" living type animal situations there is still an alpha who gets the majority of females and sex.

So this may have developmentally been a specifically social as well as physical thing. But comparatively (taking history as a whole) a quite recent one.

Interesting stuff.

I'm really going to have to look this up because I'm intrigued now.
 
Old 03-03-2016, 03:06 PM
 
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What would have happened would have been that a significant percentage of men would never have made it to "older," and the very few who did would have the majority of the women due to being "viable" while the rest of the men would have been relegated to masturbating to erotic cave paintings (and if they attempted to nab one of the harem they'd be kicked out of the tribe, maimed, or maimed and kicked out of the tribe).

Meanwhile those few remaining uber-strong death-defying males would be in CONSTANT, and I mean constant competition for Alpha Dude against far younger, far stronger, far more testosterone-fueled males anxious to take over the title.

Next?
Well I've not seen any of these so-called erotic cave paintings in any museum or national geographic, so they probably invented the wheel at that time instead.
 
Old 03-03-2016, 03:12 PM
 
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Well I've not seen any of these so-called erotic cave paintings in any museum or national geographic, so they probably invented the wheel at that time instead.
That part was facetious.

I thought that was obvious?
 
Old 03-03-2016, 03:17 PM
 
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That part was facetious.

I thought that was obvious?
My reply was as well

But seriously, I knew a guy who was 45 years old who was dating an 18 year old chick and he said that such a relationship is "nature's Viagra".
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