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Old 03-28-2016, 01:38 PM
 
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That's assuming that people all feed into what institutionalized religions view as "God".

BAD assumption.
Again, religion is not what I said. IMO God is probably disgusted with organized religion.

Marriage is not what it was especially with God no longer in it. Then it's a piece of paper.
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Old 03-28-2016, 01:42 PM
 
Location: New Yawk
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Again, religion is not what I said. IMO God is probably disgusted with organized religion.

Marriage is not what it was especially with God no longer in it. Then it's a piece of paper.
Marriage is a civil institution; whether a god or gods are involved is only relevant to those who believe in him/her/it.
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Old 03-28-2016, 01:42 PM
 
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Again, religion is not what I said. IMO God is probably disgusted with organized religion.

Marriage is not what it was especially with God no longer in it. Then it's a piece of paper.
You are making some really big assumptions about what people believe.

That "God" is no longer in marriage? Says who?
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Old 03-28-2016, 01:42 PM
 
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If this is your point of view, then how can you believe in 'morality' to begin with? The concept of morality (and ethics) is based on 'right' and 'wrong'. If there is nothing but matter, how can a materialist subscribe to such a superstitious metaphysical notion as 'morality'?
One can still believe that there are things are right or wrong and not believe that there is a God of ruling over everything
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Old 03-28-2016, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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I kind of feel that people that ask questions like these just aren't cut out for marriage. I mean, marriage isn't for everyone - and I don't think that it should take convincing or persuading to want to get married. And I don't mean this as a put down at all. It's sort of like having children. If someone asks me, "So what does having children actually achieve?" I'd probably assume that they simply don't want children and should just go with that.
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Old 03-28-2016, 01:45 PM
 
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You are making some really big assumptions about what people believe.

That "God" is no longer in marriage? Says who?
To the ones who view it as a piece of paper.
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Old 03-28-2016, 01:45 PM
 
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Again, religion is not what I said. IMO God is probably disgusted with organized religion.

Marriage is not what it was especially with God no longer in it. Then it's a piece of paper.


If you don't have that "piece of paper", you're not actually married.
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Old 03-28-2016, 01:45 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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If this is your point of view, then how can you believe in 'morality' to begin with? The concept of morality (and ethics) is based on 'right' and 'wrong'. If there is nothing but matter, how can a materialist subscribe to such a superstitious metaphysical notion as 'morality'?

There is nothing in religion or belief in a higher power that is necessary to have a strong sense of right and wrong, or justice. Nothing at all.

If anything, needing religion or the belief in a deity to have a moral code, hinders real morality as it doesn't come from within a person but from the belief, or is supported by a belief, in spirits/gods/ghosts/souls/etc and or man made structure based on those superstitious beliefs. Karma is superstitious, morality is neither superstitious nor metaphorical.
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Old 03-28-2016, 01:46 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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If you don't have that "piece of paper", you're not actually married.
Yup, and that piece of paper is a contract that has far more power than superstitious beliefs.
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Old 03-28-2016, 01:49 PM
 
Location: New Yawk
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To the ones who view it as a piece of paper.
Am I understand you correctly, that anyone who doesn't believe in god (which one, btw?) views marriage as just a piece of paper? A marriage between couple of Buddhists or agnostics is just a piece of paper? According to whom: them or you?
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