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Why do you say that? Unless you're a guy, you probably don't have quite the same gauge regarding social interactions with women.
I knew lots of women who were just awful in public situations when I was working on my bachelors degree. Heck, one was a future coworker who let her brother do all their speaking projects in class as she was just that mortified of speaking.
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I'm as serious as a heart attack. Like AlfredB1979 said, there are some women who think they have good social skills, but in reality are terrible with it.
I'm sure there are just as many men in the same boat
At least alcohol works for you. I don't even have a temporary escape from this hell. It really sucks. Men are expected to do everything in relationships. I want to be the passive one. I'm too shy to dominate.
At least alcohol works for you. I don't even have a temporary escape from this hell. It really sucks. Men are expected to do everything in relationships. I want to be the passive one. I'm too shy to dominate.
I consider myself pretty shy and reserved, generally. Till I get to know you at least then it's on. Never stopped me with the ladies, though. I love(d) the chase.
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At least alcohol works for you. I don't even have a temporary escape from this hell. It really sucks. Men are expected to do everything in relationships. I want to be the passive one. I'm too shy to dominate.
Then find a dom. They're in high demand, and not the most common thing around, but they are definitely out there.
Maybe it has already been said but reason why shy men won't get too far in the dating scene is because men are still expected to be the ones who take initiative to approach a woman, break the ice and start the conversation, later on ask for her number, and then ask her out. As we know, women will rarely ever do all this. Sure sure, there are exceptions but we are still far from saying women do this as much as men. So, why bother doing all the work that a man is supposed to do? Let a more outgoing guy approach and move on.
Maybe it has already been said but reason why shy men won't get too far in the dating scene is because men are still expected to be the ones who take initiative to approach a woman, break the ice and start the conversation, later on ask for her number, and then ask her out. As we know, women will rarely ever do all this. Sure sure, there are exceptions but we are still far from saying women do this as much as men. So, why bother doing all the work that a man is supposed to do? Let a more outgoing guy approach and move on.
There's some merit to what you say. The thing is though that if you really buy into that story and you're shy then you're screwed. Or not (sorry). Point being, negative emotions tend to narrow the range of options that come to mind. On line dating can be a boon to some men. Being a part of a social circle that includes women can allow you to get to know women in a less pressured context, and also to be known by women who have friends. When you've had nice conversations with Vanessa and she's seen you be a genuinely decent person to a variety of people, it's no coincidence when Vanessa's single friend Kate joins the group at the next party, event, hike, game night, etc.
I know so many shy, bumbling, socially rather inept, not very good-looking, definitely not rich men who are dating or are married.
So many.
Somebody made a move somewhere, some woman took a chance, and these men did not end up alone.
I will say most if not all (trying to think here) such men I've personally known, did have solid careers - not huge money-making careers, but stability. And that they are very much family men, overall; hence, actual (not self-proclaimed) nice guys. Just solid, nice people who were able to show love, which is deep down what many if not most women want. We want to be loved. We want to be respected. We want to be listened to.
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I know so many shy, bumbling, socially rather inept, not very good-looking, definitely not rich men who are dating or are married.
So many.
Somebody made a move somewhere, some woman took a chance, and these men did not end up alone.
I will say most if not all (trying to think here) such men I've personally known, did have solid careers - not huge money-making careers, but stability. And that they are very much family men, overall; hence, actual (not self-proclaimed) nice guys. Just solid, nice people who were able to show love, which is deep down what many if not most women want. We want to be loved. We want to be respected. We want to be listened to.
Scout's honor.
I will salute to that. Sometimes, they're the best ones to be with.
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Sometimes, they're the best ones to be with.
